What is the best degree for IT?
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@WingCreative said:
@Draco8573 said:
@Dashrender yeah don't have the money. But my work is going to be throwing away some old pcs and server parts ill see if i can get some of that.
Check this out! $50 in DigitalOcean credit for students, along with a ton of other resources that will help you get started doing tech stuff.
That is awesome. Don't forget that Amazon has a free tier too!
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And cloud provider experience is important for your resume as well.
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@scottalanmiller said:
That is awesome. Don't forget that Amazon has a free tier too!
With lots of loopholes, they almost always find a way to charge you.
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In my experience, it has been pretty straightforward to stay within the free tier as long as I stick to one EC2 instance at a time with <30gb attached EBS storage.
Learning to use AWS would definitely be a marketable IT skill - here's a rundown on what you can use the AWS services for. The AWS console is a lot to take in at first, but you can do a lot with it just by learning how to manage EC2 instances. You can also run one small instance for free for the first year you have your account - which is probably all you would need to get some good hands-on experience building servers from scratch.
I started learning how to manage virtual servers on DigitalOcean. The interface was much easier for me to learn how to use because it's entirely focused on building virtual servers... unlike AWS, which can do about a billion different things with its dashboard full of options. You also have the ability to load up a variety of pre-configured servers on DO, so if you'd rather skip learning how to install an application at first you can dive right into messing around with it.
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@WingCreative said:
You also have the ability to load up a variety of pre-configured servers on DO, so if you'd rather skip learning how to install an application at first you can dive right into messing around with it.
This is the drawback to them as well - you can't roll your own or use other pre rolled installs, like FreePBX distro.
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Let me tell you from experience. If you want to be a mediocre IT Generalist, drop out now!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@Jason said:
@scottalanmiller said:
That is awesome. Don't forget that Amazon has a free tier too!
With lots of loopholes, they almost always find a way to charge you.
I got a free year without any effort.
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@Dashrender said:
@WingCreative said:
You also have the ability to load up a variety of pre-configured servers on DO, so if you'd rather skip learning how to install an application at first you can dive right into messing around with it.
This is the drawback to them as well - you can't roll your own or use other pre rolled installs, like FreePBX distro.
Only of a base OS. You can roll your own starting from their bases but you can't use a third party installer.
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Vultr is extremely affordable as well for learning.
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Some what related: http://mangolassi.it/topic/6527/the-college-conspiracy
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Here is a great example of why college degrees get zero respect: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1261417-anyone-with-implementing-spiceworks-at-work-as-final-year-degree-project
His final degree project is literally something so basic we'd expect a high school intern to do it with little, if any, direction. Double click the installer, fix authentication issues case by case. This is way below entry level stuff. And to be a degree final?!?! How can anyone take a college graduate seriously if they think that this somehow prepares them for working in IT?
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I saw that topic yesterday and just left it alone.
I'd be pissed if my college education taught me how to run an installer on a Windows Server....
Totally pissed, to the point where I'd demand a refund for my education.
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This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.
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@DustinB3403 said:
I saw that topic yesterday and just left it alone.
I'd be pissed if my college education taught me how to run an installer on a Windows Server....
Totally pissed, to the point where I'd demand a refund for my education.
Pretty much par for the college course, from what I've seen.
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@Minion-Queen said:
This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.
Might be one we've actually had them do.
It's not a criticism of Spiceworks, it's a compliment that the software is that easy to use. But if a professor thinks that that shows that you've learned something, it just tells me that that professor isn't up to NTG's high school intern level yet.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.
Might be one we've actually had them do.
It's not a criticism of Spiceworks, it's a compliment that the software is that easy to use. But if a professor thinks that that shows that you've learned something, it just tells me that that professor isn't up to NTG's high school intern level yet.
Those who can't... teach ?
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No not a criticism at all. But this is usually the second project we have interns do. Part of having them install this with little to no IT knowledge is to see how they go about researching and troubleshooting how to do something.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.
Might be one we've actually had them do.
It's not a criticism of Spiceworks, it's a compliment that the software is that easy to use. But if a professor thinks that that shows that you've learned something, it just tells me that that professor isn't up to NTG's high school intern level yet.
More importantly it shows that the college program isn't up to a 6 year olds' familiarity of windows software installation yet.
The configuration portion it literally nothing more than copy and paste credentials and troubleshoot firewall issues.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.
Might be one we've actually had them do.
It's not a criticism of Spiceworks, it's a compliment that the software is that easy to use. But if a professor thinks that that shows that you've learned something, it just tells me that that professor isn't up to NTG's high school intern level yet.
Those who can't... teach ?
Especially in IT where there is a shortage of people to work in the field and teaching does not prepare people to enter the field. So by teaching you would be doubly screwing people... except the assumption that the professors can't actually do what they are attempting to teach.
