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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Damn the 12 port vs the 8 port is double the price of the 8 port, $1450.. ouch!

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        Damn the 12 port vs the 8 port is double the price of the 8 port, $1450.. ouch!

        I bet if you check the backplane gets a lot faster.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          It might be the route we go with, 10GigE switch with bonded NICS or dedicated 10GigE NICS on each host.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            How many VM hosts do you have?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              1 Currently that is stand alone.

              The equipment we're looking into would be a dual host setup. "Primary Primary" so to speak.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                A long time ago I remember seeing some documentation (sales pamphlet) for industrial 10G switches. Small little units, 5 ports.

                I can remember for the life of me their name though as this was years ago.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  A long time ago I remember seeing some documentation (sales pamphlet) for industrial 10G switches. Small little units, 5 ports.

                  I can remember for the life of me their name though as this was years ago.

                  Netgear has some fairly inexpensive managed switches that have 10G uplink ports. I think in the 800-900$ range. You could look into those if you don't need a ton of 10Gbe ports.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    Yeah I'm thinking we won't need many.

                    Just device to device basically.

                    From XenServer host to onsite backup device.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said:

                      Yeah I'm thinking we won't need many.

                      Just device to device basically.

                      From XenServer host to onsite backup device.

                      Yep, I can't remember the model number but Netgear, in the last year, released a model with 4 10Gbe ports.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Likely four ports won't be enough.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller Even if we spent for the 10G NICs in the servers?

                          2 Hypervisors 1 Backup device.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            @scottalanmiller Even if we spent for the 10G NICs in the servers?

                            2 Hypervisors 1 Backup device.

                            Oh, so two servers and one backup device and one uplink to the rest of the network? Four ports might do it then. But.... no redundancy at all?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              Cost consciousness.

                              Is there that much added value in doubling what we have for those "if" events.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver
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                                Nevermind, I was thinking about the S3300 series, they have 2 uplink ports. There are 2 10Gb copper or fiber ports that you can use interchangeably... but only two at a time. They do have the XT712T but I have a feeling that may be a bit too expensive.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  Cost consciousness.

                                  Is there that much added value in doubling what we have for those "if" events.

                                  NICs and switches tend to die and it doubles throughput.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    Well even in that case I would still look at a bigger switch with 8 - 12 ports. possibly with some level of management on it.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver
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                                      Can you do port bonding? I thought I read someone suggest that but didn't see your response. That would be a really good stop gap solution for now.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @coliver
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                                        @coliver Possibly.

                                        The biggest bottleneck with the existing backup solution is the server performing the work. Which is just constantly getting hit.

                                        Port bonding on the new setup would reduce some cost, at the price of reducing what we can run VM wise since those ports would be tied up.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          @coliver Possibly.

                                          The biggest bottleneck with the existing backup solution is the server performing the work. Which is just constantly getting hit.

                                          Port bonding on the new setup would reduce some cost, at the price of reducing what we can run VM wise since those ports would be tied up.

                                          The cost of an additional 4 port 1Gbe card is minimal. You could easily add that to all your systems for a fraction the cost of the 10Gbe switch and adapters.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
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                                            I'm forking to a new thread. Will post a link shortly.

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