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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      If you identify a single server that needs more speed, you can go up to triple or quadruple GigE if need be before making a leap to 10GigE connections.

      What's the current cost for a 10 GigE card. Assuming he doesn't already have open ports of GigE, he'll need to buy regardless.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        I'm surprised, an unmanged 10 GigE swith 8 port is $760

        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122529

        A two port card from Dell is $650. Third party might be considerably less.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Yup, I've been pushing Netgear 10GigE for a long time now. I think that Dell has some decent 10GigE fiber switches for around $2K as well.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            Damn the 12 port vs the 8 port is double the price of the 8 port, $1450.. ouch!

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              Damn the 12 port vs the 8 port is double the price of the 8 port, $1450.. ouch!

              I bet if you check the backplane gets a lot faster.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                It might be the route we go with, 10GigE switch with bonded NICS or dedicated 10GigE NICS on each host.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  How many VM hosts do you have?

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    1 Currently that is stand alone.

                    The equipment we're looking into would be a dual host setup. "Primary Primary" so to speak.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      A long time ago I remember seeing some documentation (sales pamphlet) for industrial 10G switches. Small little units, 5 ports.

                      I can remember for the life of me their name though as this was years ago.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        A long time ago I remember seeing some documentation (sales pamphlet) for industrial 10G switches. Small little units, 5 ports.

                        I can remember for the life of me their name though as this was years ago.

                        Netgear has some fairly inexpensive managed switches that have 10G uplink ports. I think in the 800-900$ range. You could look into those if you don't need a ton of 10Gbe ports.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          Yeah I'm thinking we won't need many.

                          Just device to device basically.

                          From XenServer host to onsite backup device.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            Yeah I'm thinking we won't need many.

                            Just device to device basically.

                            From XenServer host to onsite backup device.

                            Yep, I can't remember the model number but Netgear, in the last year, released a model with 4 10Gbe ports.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Likely four ports won't be enough.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller Even if we spent for the 10G NICs in the servers?

                                2 Hypervisors 1 Backup device.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  @scottalanmiller Even if we spent for the 10G NICs in the servers?

                                  2 Hypervisors 1 Backup device.

                                  Oh, so two servers and one backup device and one uplink to the rest of the network? Four ports might do it then. But.... no redundancy at all?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    Cost consciousness.

                                    Is there that much added value in doubling what we have for those "if" events.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver
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                                      Nevermind, I was thinking about the S3300 series, they have 2 uplink ports. There are 2 10Gb copper or fiber ports that you can use interchangeably... but only two at a time. They do have the XT712T but I have a feeling that may be a bit too expensive.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        Cost consciousness.

                                        Is there that much added value in doubling what we have for those "if" events.

                                        NICs and switches tend to die and it doubles throughput.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          Well even in that case I would still look at a bigger switch with 8 - 12 ports. possibly with some level of management on it.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver
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                                            Can you do port bonding? I thought I read someone suggest that but didn't see your response. That would be a really good stop gap solution for now.

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