Backup File Server to DAS
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@IT-ADMIN said:
I've learned also that it perform block level backup, can I backup my files in daily basis incrementally to a NAS???
Which what tool? Nearly all backup is done to NAS and nearly all is incremental. As a general question, yes of course. But specifically we would need to know what tool you are going to use. You've already stated in the original post and reiterated again and again that Windows cannot do incremental to a NAS, so we have to assume you are asking about something else.... but what? Veeam? If so, yes.
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@IT-ADMIN -- I am running Veeam on Server 2012 R2, so I'd say try to install it and see. If you have a network share on your NAS with enough available space, Veeam should back up to it with no problems.
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Normal backup software does not have NAS limitations like Windows does. Windows Backup is extremely limited and basic and is doing something weird and lazily causes the issue requiring a block device.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
I've learned also that it perform block level backup, can I backup my files in daily basis incrementally to a NAS???
Which what tool? Nearly all backup is done to NAS and nearly all is incremental. As a general question, yes of course. But specifically we would need to know what tool you are going to use. You've already stated in the original post and reiterated again and again that Windows cannot do incremental to a NAS, so we have to assume you are asking about something else.... but what? Veeam? If so, yes.
Yes Dear Scott, i will use Veeam, i'm really pleased with it, it is free and can do daily incremental backup of my volumes to a NAS and what really impressed me is that i can even do incremental daily system image backup, something which is really great and also i can create a veeam USB recovery media in case of disaster and boot from USB and recover my system from NAS (which have many system restore point)
WOW that is really awesome, thank you for advising me to change my WBS, it is very very limited comparing to Veeam
i never imagine that i can find such powerful backup solution like veeam for free, wow -
Okay great, with Veeam you can use NAS for sure. That is the way that I would go.
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but how such a friendly powerful tool like veeam can be free ?? incredible
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@IT-ADMIN said:
but how such a friendly powerful tool like veeam can be free ?? incredible
Many of the big features and the ability to scale are not free. Veeam makes a LOT of money
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i never imagine i can find such tool for free, therefor i was sticking to WBS in my first posts
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i never imagine i can find such tool for free, therefor i was sticking to WBS in my first posts
At small size, many of the best tools are free. They want small companies to try them and get to know them before growing into big companies that can pay for them.
Unitrends is free at this size too, if you were virtualized.
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yeah you are right Dear Scott, that is their philosophy
but unitrend doesn't support XenServer for free, isn't it ?
because i have one XenSever Host (2 VM guest in it) and till now i didn't put a backup solution for it ! -
@IT-ADMIN said:
but unitrend doesn't support XenServer for free, isn't it ?
No, because their free product and their XenServer product are completely different products. They don't have a free XenServer product yet after having bought the company that makes that software.
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Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...
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@Danp said:
Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...
Even KVM?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Danp said:
Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...
Even KVM?
Nope
Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.
Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Danp said:
Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...
Even KVM?
Nope
Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.
Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?
So not all major. LOL
Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Danp said:
Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...
Even KVM?
Nope
Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.
Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?
So not all major. LOL
Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.
Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Danp said:
Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...
Even KVM?
Nope
Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.
Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?
So not all major. LOL
Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.
Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?
http://xenserver.org/about-xenserver-open-source.html
It looks like it is still managed by Citrix?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Danp said:
Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...
Even KVM?
Nope
Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.
Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?
So not all major. LOL
Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.
Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?
XenServer is a brand name that Citrix slaps on XCP. XCP is made by Linux, XenServer is provided by Citrix. Citrix makes nothing that anyone uses.
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Here is the site for the Linux Foundation managed version. http://xenproject.org/
