Topics regarding Inverted Pyramids Of Doom
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@johnhooks said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@johnhooks said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.
Why is it always these setups that use VMware?
That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.
Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?
They don't... most places think they are one in the same.
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@johnhooks said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.
Why is it always these setups that use VMware?
When someone is being guided by salesmen, the factors will remain the same. VMware is what makes someone money, as is selling HA features and SANs. The thing that makes someone try to sell one piece makes them try to sell all of them. All part of the same "being taken advantage of by sales people".
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@johnhooks said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@johnhooks said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.
Why is it always these setups that use VMware?
That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.
Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?
I've been wondering about this as well. There are a LOT of people claiming to be IT people that are really just "IT buyers" who can't even tell when they are buying something reasonable or not.
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So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..
"It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."
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yeah, he has no idea what he is doing.... needs all these features today and is going to give them up someday when he goes to NetApp.
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@johnhooks said:
So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..
"It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."
Wait... why would you use iSCSI... doesn't VMWare recommend NFS for shared storage?
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Indeed BOTH VMware and Synology suggest NFS!!
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Not that I am saying that shared storage is the right solution here but if you are going to do bad things you may as well do them right.
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yeah, bad setup of a bad design.
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@scottalanmiller said:
And another...
Holy cow. SBS and Alpha Anywhere. I've never talked to anyone other than @dafyre that has used Alpha before. I can't imagine paying for their new webserver.
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And another one for the pile....
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1369163-high-available-nas-solution?source=homepage-feed
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New one. This guy is not aware of the IPOD, hopefully we can fix things before they get bad.
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1352900-synology-nas-single-lun-or-several-luns
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This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed
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@DustinB3403 said:
This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed
Ughhh... Those VNXe's suck... like really bad. I managed one at one of my old jobs and had a terrible time of it. Coincidentally that was an IPOD situation as well. Never get sales advice from your vendor.
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Why do they need a VNXe for a vSAN setup? Isn't that typically done with all of the storage directly on the host? Maybe they are using it for a backup appliance?
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Yeah a vSAN is virtual... so he was way over sold, unless those dell servers just can't support that much drive space....
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Which still doesn't make any sense, local storage > anything else (in 99% of cases)
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@DustinB3403 said:
Yeah a vSAN is virtual... so he was way over sold, unless those dell servers just can't support that much drive space....
Right... but then you would move up to the next chassis that has a ton of drive bays available. It would still be less expensive then the VNXe.
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The servers are diskless.... yeah IPOD.
