Building Elastix 4 via RPM Repo
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Also, did some one not say there were errors using the ISO?
Using the ISO as a repo, not in installing from the ISO AFAIK.
lack of Linux knowledge here - why would you use the ISO as a repo instead of just installing from the ISO?
Hosted provider that does not let you install from your own ISO.
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@JaredBusch Aww.. so that sorta makes sense, but why use the ISO? because they don't have their own repo?
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@Dashrender said:
@JaredBusch Aww.. so that sorta makes sense, but why use the ISO? because they don't have their own repo?
Correct, there is no repo at all for Elastix 4. But even if there was a repo, it would have to contain not just the updated packages but the installer files. Even when there is a repo, this is not always the case. But for Elastix 2, we don't use the ISO. It's only for Elastix 4 that it is currently required, I believe.
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@Dashrender said:
lack of Linux knowledge here - why would you use the ISO as a repo instead of just installing from the ISO?
Exactly as Jared said here. No enterprise hosting servers (that I know of) lets you bring your own ISO for stability and performance reasons. They need hooks into your system that that would break. So installing onto generic is pretty important.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
lack of Linux knowledge here - why would you use the ISO as a repo instead of just installing from the ISO?
Exactly as Jared said here. No enterprise hosting servers (that I know of) lets you bring your own ISO for stability and performance reasons. They need hooks into your system that that would break. So installing onto generic is pretty important.
What kinds of hooks do they get into the system?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
lack of Linux knowledge here - why would you use the ISO as a repo instead of just installing from the ISO?
Exactly as Jared said here. No enterprise hosting servers (that I know of) lets you bring your own ISO for stability and performance reasons. They need hooks into your system that that would break. So installing onto generic is pretty important.
What kinds of hooks do they get into the system?
Well in some cases, a PV kernel. In many it is things like the ability to reset the root password, insert keys, check for memory utilization, determine if the CPU is hung, etc.
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How, that is a lot of power for your provider.
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@Dashrender said:
How, that is a lot of power for your provider.
how is it not? People expect certain functionalities, not having them puts a provider at a big disadvantage. And having rapidly built systems is huge. And reliable performance. If you let people install from ISO you get a performance mess.
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Not how.wow... Damn autocorrect
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
How, that is a lot of power for your provider.
how is it not? People expect certain functionalities, not having them puts a provider at a big disadvantage. And having rapidly built systems is huge. And reliable performance. If you let people install from ISO you get a performance mess.
I understand not allowing own ISO, but allowing the hosted root reset, that seems crazy.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
How, that is a lot of power for your provider.
how is it not? People expect certain functionalities, not having them puts a provider at a big disadvantage. And having rapidly built systems is huge. And reliable performance. If you let people install from ISO you get a performance mess.
I understand not allowing own ISO, but allowing the hosted root reset, that seems crazy.
Physical access ALWAYS means the ability to reset. No exception. But this allows it to be easy, automated and available to the customer. It's a pretty important feature. Imagine a hosted system where you are barred from doing a password reset like you would on a local one. That would be almost impossible for anyone not in a pure DevOps world to manage.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
How, that is a lot of power for your provider.
how is it not? People expect certain functionalities, not having them puts a provider at a big disadvantage. And having rapidly built systems is huge. And reliable performance. If you let people install from ISO you get a performance mess.
I understand not allowing own ISO, but allowing the hosted root reset, that seems crazy.
Physical access ALWAYS means the ability to reset. No exception. But this allows it to be easy, automated and available to the customer. It's a pretty important feature. Imagine a hosted system where you are barred from doing a password reset like you would on a local one. That would be almost impossible for anyone not in a pure DevOps world to manage.
Physical sure, where you not implying they could do it with some kernal mod? Maybe I misunderstood.
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@Dashrender said:
Physical sure, where you not implying they could do it with some kernal mod? Maybe I misunderstood.
Kernel mod is pretty dramatic. It's just an app normally.
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@Dashrender said:
Physical sure, where you not implying they could do it with some kernal mod? Maybe I misunderstood.
So the important thing is that you have given up no security, just enabled a feature that benefits you.
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Hi There.
Not sure if this is entirely related but I've installed Elastix 4 onto a Centos 7 Digital Ocean droplet.
I've got to the point where I need to start the elastix-firstboot. but I can't find how to do it?
Any ideas?
If I need to create a new thread, let me know.
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@BigfootNetworks said:
Hi There.
Not sure if this is entirely related but I've installed Elastix 4 onto a Centos 7 Digital Ocean droplet.
I've got to the point where I need to start the elastix-firstboot. but I can't find how to do it?
Any ideas?
If I need to create a new thread, let me know.
thanksWe are using Digital Ocean, too. The script at the top specifically worked on DO and installs elastix-firstboot as it goes, there shouldn't be any manual intervention.
Did you get any errors? What version of the ISO are you working from?
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So I just used your script to install on Centos 7 on Azure. I do get the prompt for MySQL and Freepbx passwords at the end. However after the reboot my sudoers file has been overwritten (WTF?) essentially locking me out as a root user. Now I can't open the httpd ports or even start httpd. Bummer. Anyone else experiencing this on other VM services. I use azure because I have a free account and its just for testing. Maybe if I start fresh and open the ports before the install -will that work? But still left with the problem of root access blown away!
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@dom I don't see anything in that script that would make changes to the /etc/sudoers file. Could it be something wacky with Azure?
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@travisdh1 said:
@dom I don't see anything in that script that would make changes to the /etc/sudoers file. Could it be something wacky with Azure?
It's not my script, it doesn't touch that. However, Elastix has a track record of modifying /etc/sudoers with their RPM packages. So if you rely on /etc/sudoers, you must keep it updated after any yum run. Just part of the nature of Elastix.
