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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender @mlnews

      Ya you can have a full desktop gui on the workstation and have KVM running. Then just use VirtManager to access the console for each virtual machine.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @stacksofplates
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        @johnhooks said:

        @Dashrender @mlnews

        Ya you can have a full desktop gui on the workstation and have KVM running. Then just use VirtManager to access the console for each virtual machine.

        Sounds like it works nearly the same as HyperV.

        But I'm with Scott, not sure it's worth the effort for a hypervisor that has so little play.

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        • Reid CooperR
          Reid Cooper
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          I think that KVM might be a little lighter. Although VirtualBox is tuned for use with local graphics and KVM is not. One would be used "as designed" and the other more or less "making do." Not sure that the KVM experience would be better, likely worse. So if you were virtualizing servers and wanted them to process as quickly as possible KVM might be the better answer. If you want a good desktop experience, I would think that VirtualBox would be the answer.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            @johnhooks said:

            @Dashrender @mlnews

            Ya you can have a full desktop gui on the workstation and have KVM running. Then just use VirtManager to access the console for each virtual machine.

            Sounds like it works nearly the same as HyperV.

            But I'm with Scott, not sure it's worth the effort for a hypervisor that has so little play.

            I just learned this the other day. Apparently this is how Gnome Boxes works. It sets up KVM machines in the user space. So each user has their own KVM VMs. So you can manage them with either Boxes or Virt-Manager.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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              @johnhooks said:

              I just learned this the other day. Apparently this is how Gnome Boxes works. It sets up KVM machines in the user space. So each user has their own KVM VMs. So you can manage them with either Boxes or Virt-Manager.

              So.... VDI?

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @johnhooks said:

                I just learned this the other day. Apparently this is how Gnome Boxes works. It sets up KVM machines in the user space. So each user has their own KVM VMs. So you can manage them with either Boxes or Virt-Manager.

                So.... VDI?

                Well they are full VMs that the user can create. When you look in virt-manager it has KVM machines in localhost, when you create one with Gnome Boxes it's under localhost:user (or something to that effect). So like virtualbox but with KVM and per user.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                  @johnhooks said:

                  When you look in virt-manager it has KVM machines in localhost, when you create one with Gnome Boxes it's under localhost:user (or something to that effect). So like virtualbox but with KVM and per user.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Boxes

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                    @johnhooks said:

                    Well they are full VMs that the user can create.

                    Right... so VDI 🙂

                    Full VMs with remote graphical access. That's all VDI is.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @johnhooks said:

                      Well they are full VMs that the user can create.

                      Right... so VDI 🙂

                      Full VMs with remote graphical access. That's all VDI is.

                      Would anything with VNC or spice be considered that also?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                        @johnhooks said:

                        Would anything with VNC or spice be considered that also?

                        Spice, yes, that's specifically a VDI protocol. Anything using VNC for the purpose of doing computing with it, certainly.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          VDI is simply the virtualization of resources meant to be consumed graphically instead of as a server.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            VDI is simply the virtualization of resources meant to be consumed graphically instead of as a server.

                            I thought it was specifically in reference to things like VMware Horizon or Citrix XenDesktop. Thanks for the clarification!

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              VDI is simply the virtualization of resources meant to be consumed graphically instead of as a server.

                              Wait, why are you limited to graphically? If you're using a CLI, why isn't that VDI? is it because of the term desktop in "Virtual Desktop Infrastructure"?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                @johnhooks said:

                                I thought it was specifically in reference to things like VMware Horizon or Citrix XenDesktop. Thanks for the clarification!

                                VDI existed long before those things 🙂

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Wait, why are you limited to graphically? If you're using a CLI, why isn't that VDI? is it because of the term desktop in "Virtual Desktop Infrastructure"?

                                  It's all about the graphical desktop. If you are using a CLI on a one to one deployment, sure, that would be a very weird VDI.

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