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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
      last edited by

      @DustinB3403 said:

      True, and I'd still be using the same appliance I have, and I suppose I could have 2 partitions on the VM the "C" drive for the OS, and a "D" for data with shares under it.

      For a file server yes you would often partition, although generally not necessary. For most things, like an app server, you would not even partition.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        I wonder if I could use NAUBackup to snapshot a specific partition rather than the entire VM.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said:

          I wonder if I could use NAUBackup to snapshot a specific partition rather than the entire VM.

          You would not likely want to do that. You want your VM in sync with itself.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            The reason I ask is so that should something afflict the VM C partition that I have some way to recover more rapidly that our Buffalo drive.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              Without having to have a 4TB Snapshot sitting there, just waiting to be used.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                last edited by scottalanmiller

                @DustinB3403 said:

                Without having to have a 4TB Snapshot sitting there, just waiting to be used.

                If you recover the OS and not the data, what does that fix?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  The reason I ask is so that should something afflict the VM C partition that I have some way to recover more rapidly that our Buffalo drive.

                  You might want a faster restore mechanism. Is your file server currently a full 4TB? How do you recover currently?

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    There are 2 servers acting as file shares. The backup mechanism is via ShadowProtect

                    If I were going to propose this I would scale up the CPU and RAM to the max that the board can support as I'd also say virtualize everything onto this host. to consolidate our server footprint.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      Well maybe not the maximum.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        There are 2 servers acting as file shares. The backup mechanism is via ShadowProtect

                        They are very good for file backups!

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          The data partition could be backup via ShadowProtect.

                          That or I scale up the CIFS server that is being used on our small XenServer to backup the few less critical VM's I have running there to be large enough to hold 12 TB of data.

                          I'd probably have to build one for that purpose as well as trunk a few NIC's to get a good throughput.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            The goal is to get off of equipment that is at its EoWarranty.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              And these servers have 1-2 external drives attached as backup to them already. There isn't much internal storage on these machines.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said:

                                The goal is to get off of equipment that is at its EoWarranty.

                                While virtualizing everything server side.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  Scaled up the the 10 Bay Chassis, 2 X Intel Xeon E5-2660 2.2GHz/20M/1600MHz 8-Core 95W, 128GB (8x16G) DDR3 ECC RDIMM and eight Samsung 850 EVO 2 TB SSD's total price is $10742.92.

                                  Which is probably still cheaper than what the MSP will offer as a solution.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    That is where one, single, huge, new, well warrantied, well supported enterprise box with local storage would shine. Consolidate, save money, put the investment all in one place and replace everything old and crufty all at once. Doesn't just fix, like everything, now but it eliminated technical debt and puts you on a solid road for the future continuing to save money, have more and do less.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      Scaled up the the 10 Bay Chassis, 2 X Intel Xeon E5-2660 2.2GHz/20M/1600MHz 8-Core 95W, 128GB (8x16G) DDR3 ECC RDIMM and eight Samsung 850 EVO 2 TB SSD's total price is $10742.92.

                                      Which is probably still cheaper than what the MSP will offer as a solution.

                                      Especially if you are thinking of it as the COMPUTE node AND the storage node all in one.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        That's the only way it would work in this environment. We don't have any hosted applications such as an ERP, or Virtual PBX. So it would all get moved onto a larger unit.

                                        Which consolidates the entire company to a single VM Host which has room to grow if need be.

                                        The trouble IMO is the price on those SSD's they seem so expensive when compared to the cost of the Host.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          And down the road (6 months maybe) purchase a second matching unit for HA which we really want.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by dafyre

                                            @scottalanmiller What does he do in the case of an earthquaek (or a fire?) ... It takes out the whole compute & storage infrastructure... but what about his backups?

                                            Edit: Ignore this comment, Dustin said what I was thinking.

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