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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      So build a massive XenServer with ton's of local SSD storage and then migrate the data into the VM. Consolidating it all into a single VM.

      I'd really need a much larger CIFS file server to make my backups then ..... haha

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        I'd really need a much larger CIFS file server to make my backups then ..... haha

        Total backup size should not change from what you have to backup already. Just all from one place rather than from multiple.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said:

          So build a massive XenServer with ton's of local SSD storage and then migrate the data into the VM. Consolidating it all into a single VM.

          XenServer or HyperV, yes. One big server, one bit RAID 5 SSD array, everything a VM. Insanely fast (tens or hundreds of times faster than the same setup with a NAS/SAN connection), extremely reliable (more reliable than anything else discussed here) for super cheap and incredibly easy to manage.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Its a huge win, safe, fast and reliable while saving 90% of the money.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              True, and I'd still be using the same appliance I have, and I suppose I could have 2 partitions on the VM the "C" drive for the OS, and a "D" for data with shares under it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said:

                True, and I'd still be using the same appliance I have, and I suppose I could have 2 partitions on the VM the "C" drive for the OS, and a "D" for data with shares under it.

                For a file server yes you would often partition, although generally not necessary. For most things, like an app server, you would not even partition.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  I wonder if I could use NAUBackup to snapshot a specific partition rather than the entire VM.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    I wonder if I could use NAUBackup to snapshot a specific partition rather than the entire VM.

                    You would not likely want to do that. You want your VM in sync with itself.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                      The reason I ask is so that should something afflict the VM C partition that I have some way to recover more rapidly that our Buffalo drive.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        Without having to have a 4TB Snapshot sitting there, just waiting to be used.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by scottalanmiller

                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          Without having to have a 4TB Snapshot sitting there, just waiting to be used.

                          If you recover the OS and not the data, what does that fix?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            The reason I ask is so that should something afflict the VM C partition that I have some way to recover more rapidly that our Buffalo drive.

                            You might want a faster restore mechanism. Is your file server currently a full 4TB? How do you recover currently?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              There are 2 servers acting as file shares. The backup mechanism is via ShadowProtect

                              If I were going to propose this I would scale up the CPU and RAM to the max that the board can support as I'd also say virtualize everything onto this host. to consolidate our server footprint.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
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                                Well maybe not the maximum.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  There are 2 servers acting as file shares. The backup mechanism is via ShadowProtect

                                  They are very good for file backups!

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    The data partition could be backup via ShadowProtect.

                                    That or I scale up the CIFS server that is being used on our small XenServer to backup the few less critical VM's I have running there to be large enough to hold 12 TB of data.

                                    I'd probably have to build one for that purpose as well as trunk a few NIC's to get a good throughput.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
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                                      The goal is to get off of equipment that is at its EoWarranty.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        And these servers have 1-2 external drives attached as backup to them already. There isn't much internal storage on these machines.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          The goal is to get off of equipment that is at its EoWarranty.

                                          While virtualizing everything server side.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
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                                            Scaled up the the 10 Bay Chassis, 2 X Intel Xeon E5-2660 2.2GHz/20M/1600MHz 8-Core 95W, 128GB (8x16G) DDR3 ECC RDIMM and eight Samsung 850 EVO 2 TB SSD's total price is $10742.92.

                                            Which is probably still cheaper than what the MSP will offer as a solution.

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