Backup solution for Windows
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Why didn't this thread get yelled at for wanting to backup an endpoint? Or breaking licensing rules?
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@BRRABill said:
Why didn't this thread get yelled at for wanting to backup an endpoint? Or breaking licensing rules?
Because it is not a business but just one person. And he is not trying to virtualize or migrate using his backups.
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@BRRABill
Why? Veeam Endpoint Backup specified it is FREE and meant for Desktops and Laptops.
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@LAH3385 it's because in his other threads he was extending that to mean "restore to other platforms or virtualize using the backup as a migratory tool."
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@scottalanmiller
Oh. Also another Oh.. this thread is 4 month old
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Is it OK because it is one person?
In my other non-business thread, I was talking about personal machines. Your uncle's PC, whatever.
Chromebook, everyone said. Never backup a personal machine.
And how do we know this backup is working? The only way would be to put another hard drive in there and recover to it. (Which I have come to understand is the trade-off of all this ... convenience (paying for a license to spin up a VM and check in minutes) vs time (having to do the whole actual restore to test).)
And it was mentioned in another post to boot the recovery image on a USB drive. Is that OK? I thought no, technically.
So, I think the same themes are in play. Just playing devil's advocate here.
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@BRRABill said:
Is it OK because it is one person?
In my other non-business thread, I was talking about personal machines. Your uncle's PC, whatever.
Not really, but better. Everything should be hosted somewhere. Although his backup is a bit unique in that he is backing up a very complicated environment that he does not want to have to set back up again. Power user rather than non-power user. He has local RAID, for example, on hardware.
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@BRRABill said:
And how do we know this backup is working? The only way would be to put another hard drive in there and recover to it. (Which I have come to understand is the trade-off of all this ... convenience (paying for a license to spin up a VM and check in minutes) vs time (having to do the whole actual restore to test).)
Which he would totally do. He has lots of drives in his machines. This is the polar opposite of the "uncle" scenario.
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OK, I get it.
This is one of those rare cases.
Not the case for your uncle.
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@BRRABill said:
And it was mentioned in another post to boot the recovery image on a USB drive. Is that OK? I thought no, technically.
Why would that be bad? Licensing is about the system, not the storage type or location.
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Also important to note that he is not doing this to restore his data, it is to restore his apps and settings. It's non-critical. He's willing to drop huge money for really little things. His critical data is all on servers. This is a system recovery system to him, not a backup system. He is still using enterprise tools for his data.
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So, this would be more like your uncle who really, really did not want to reconfigure his apps and needed things that a Chromebook could not run and was willing to drop $1,000 to make reconfiguring easier. But still followed all of the advice about having nothing local and getting everything from a server. It's because this is an AND not an OR.
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To quote Into the Woods.
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If he's looking to restore applications, why not just reinstall them?
He could use open source tools like Fog or BackupPC (for incremental type changes, BackupPC specifically) but where is the gain? Installing an application usually only takes a few minutes per.
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@DustinB3403 said:
If he's looking to restore applications, why not just reinstall them?
You've not been a developer, I see
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@DustinB3403 said:
He could use open source tools like Fog or BackupPC (for incremental type changes, BackupPC specifically) but where is the gain? Installing an application usually only takes a few minutes per.
Veeam is free here, why go with one of those others?
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Just putting them out there.
Veeam is another good one.
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Veeam does individual file restores that the others do not. Pretty huge deal in a case like this, in case he needs something when there has not been a failure. Veeam uses imaging as a means of taking "normal backups", rather than FOG which is just an imaging system.
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Shouldn't offsite also be mentioned in here somewhere?
Or is this more time-saving than disaster-saving?
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@scottalanmiller said:
Veeam does individual file restores that the others do not. Pretty huge deal in a case like this, in case he needs something when there has not been a failure. Veeam uses imaging as a means of taking "normal backups", rather than FOG which is just an imaging system.
Is FOG even an option for a home user? We are talking about a home user, aren't we? yeah not Uncle Bob, but still a home power user. Clonezilla would be I would think the better option over Fog, but suffers the problems that Scott mentioned - lack of individual file restore. Though is that even really needed, Scott did say that this user is cloud/server storing all of their data, so what file level stuff would you ever be restoring?
