Unitrends Redefines "Free" Virtual Backup

scottalanmiller

Because it is agentless

That's different. This is about the deployment, not the backing up.

Jaguar

@Dashrender No rotating NAS storage for backup storage, but archiving still works fine.

The storage devices are now 'stateless' meaning that if the VM is lost the data can be recovered now (a personal battle I fought for several years) so while the storage device cannot be added and removed nimbly bimbly, it does allow people to have 'split' configurations now, utilizing fast DAS for the OS, and slower storage for the backup storage, without worries about them getting desync'd. Allows a lot more flexibility.

Jaguar

@thecreativeone91 Yup, HTML5

Jaguar

@thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

Dashrender

@Jaguar said:

@thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

what about with an agent? i.e. install an agent into the VM on ESXi Free.

@Jaguar said:

@thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

It has been in the past. http://go.unitrends.com/unitrends-and-free-esxi You don't get Host level backups is all.

Jaguar

RE: VMware 6, PLEASE READ THIS KB: http://support.unitrends.com/ikm/questions.php?questionid=1892

@Dashrender said:

@Jaguar said:

@thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

what about with an agent? i.e. install an agent into the VM on ESXi Free.

That's how you backuped before. Agentless will not work on free.

Jaguar

@Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

Dashrender

@Jaguar said:

@Dashrender No rotating NAS storage for backup storage, but archiving still works fine.

How I have Veeam working:

I've created 5 storage locations, I've created 5 backup jobs, one for each day of the week. Each job points to only one of the storage locations.

Would that work for UEB?

I guess I'll have to dig into the Yellow Belt training to see how archiving works.

@Jaguar said:

RE: VMware 6, PLEASE READ THIS KB: http://support.unitrends.com/ikm/questions.php?questionid=1892

That wold only affect Snapshots/Host level backups.

Dashrender

@Jaguar said:

@Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

Wait, so the new free product won't work for stand alone, non VM servers?

Jaguar

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@Jaguar said:

@Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

Wait, Unitrends free is agentless only now? That's pointless. Wow. All this for nothing. I wouldn't even consider it now.

@Dashrender said:

@Jaguar said:

@Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

Wait, so the new free product won't work for stand alone, non VM servers?

Not only that but you don't get the granularity that you get with agent backups when using host only.

Jaguar

@Dashrender I don't think the new interface will let you set up different backup devices like that... Would have to try to see, but you may potentially be able to add multiple backup devices, but archiving is still the preferred method here.

Jaguar

@thecreativeone91 Correct, which this will provide, assuming you have paid vSphere

Dashrender

I'm more concerned that it sounds like there is no more agent for the free version. i.e. will only backup at the VM host level.

Jaguar

@thecreativeone91 You can still get the SpicyUEB version which allows agents, and the other 'original' free.

@Dashrender said:

I'm more concerned that it sounds like there is no more agent for the free version.

Exactly this is really stripped down even from the old free version if so. Unitrends Free will be much more limited.