Unitrends Redefines "Free" Virtual Backup
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
Looks like you don't need to even add local space directly to the UEB anymore if you are using some kind of network storage for backups which is nice (aside from the OS space of course)
That would be great for installing to a VM and having backups go to a NAS device or something out on the network.
This is the only way I can use something like this. The cost of storage inside the host would be to expensive for me.
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@Dashrender said:
Agreed, I have client that I will be able to move them away from a secondary machine they currently use to backup their VM host with Veeam. Now to see how it handles rotating NAS storage devices.
In what manner do you wish to rotate them? It's not common to rotate NAS.
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@coliver Okay, that's what I was thinking it probably meant, but I'm not always up on the lingo. Like every time @scottalanmiller says "ack" to me I think he's complaining, but he's actually using it as "acknowledge".
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Agreed, I have client that I will be able to move them away from a secondary machine they currently use to backup their VM host with Veeam. Now to see how it handles rotating NAS storage devices.
In what manner do you wish to rotate them? It's not common to rotate NAS.
You could Archive with an external Device. But, not sure how you'd do that with a NAS. Too many variable to keep backups reliable there.
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@Dominica said:
Like every time @scottalanmiller says "ack" to me I think he's complaining, but he's actually using it as "acknowledge".
I would probably think that too.
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@Dominica said:
@coliver Okay, that's what I was thinking it probably meant, but I'm not always up on the lingo. Like every time @scottalanmiller says "ack" to me I think he's complaining, but he's actually using it as "acknowledge".
I think @scottalanmiller is unique there... I've never heard anyone use "ack" outside of a programming language, CLI, or TCP handshake.
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@coliver said:
I think @scottalanmiller is unique there... I've never heard anyone use "ack" outside of a programming language, CLI, or TCP handshake.
I didn't make it up. I learned it from company after company that used it extensively.
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I hear it most with people who get paged a lot and need to "ack" the alert.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Agreed, I have client that I will be able to move them away from a secondary machine they currently use to backup their VM host with Veeam. Now to see how it handles rotating NAS storage devices.
In what manner do you wish to rotate them? It's not common to rotate NAS.
My client refuses to push backups to an offsite over the internet. The cheapest option we found for them 4 years ago was Veeam and several single drive NASs. Each one assigned to a day of the week. They would be rotated offsite daily. It's worked well enough.
I've really tried to get them to allow a cloud, or even VPN to the owners home based backup (replication actually) of the local backups, but they just don't 'trust the internet.' Even though they use the internet for email and nearly everything else. I stopped fighting them and just found them a solution.
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@Dominica said:
@coliver Okay, that's what I was thinking it probably meant, but I'm not always up on the lingo. Like every time @scottalanmiller says "ack" to me I think he's complaining, but he's actually using it as "acknowledge".
Now that's just funny!
But it only works because you're techie too, and even then it doesn't really sound like it works well
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Always works at the office
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@Dashrender said:
I stopped fighting them and just found them a solution.
This is a mark of IT maturity. You can't always convince a client to follow your recommendations, and so the "right" way is sometimes just doing what the client wants.
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@Dominica said:
@Dashrender said:
I stopped fighting them and just found them a solution.
This is a mark of IT maturity. You can't always convince a client to follow your recommendations, and so the "right" way is sometimes just doing what the client wants.
Are you saying @scottalanmiller isn't mature because he doesn't like to give up?
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@thecreativeone91 she's just saying I'm not mature. No specific reason.
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Well, I've downloaded it twice just incase it was corrupt.
No error information on unitrends side, nothing useful in the ESXi logs. Maybe it doesn't work on FreeESXi 6.0 for somereason.
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I'm totally tempted to move to Hyper-V just for this.
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Yep. This will not work on FreeESXi you need a licensed version. It tries to used a licesned feature called vFlash which is why it fails.
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Because it is agentless
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@Minion-Queen said:
Because it is agentless
That's different. This is about the deployment, not the backing up.
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@Dashrender No rotating NAS storage for backup storage, but archiving still works fine.
The storage devices are now 'stateless' meaning that if the VM is lost the data can be recovered now (a personal battle I fought for several years) so while the storage device cannot be added and removed nimbly bimbly, it does allow people to have 'split' configurations now, utilizing fast DAS for the OS, and slower storage for the backup storage, without worries about them getting desync'd. Allows a lot more flexibility.
