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@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Whoops, turns out that the execs of MegaUpload aren't the real criminals here...
That's not what they said - but they did say the government was likely/was acting as outside their jurisdiction.
Yes, that means they were criminals.
But it doesn't excuse the criminals they were chasing - just lets them possibly go free since the gov't didn't follow proper procedure.
Not sure we can call these criminals... maybe accused?
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Whoops, turns out that the execs of MegaUpload aren't the real criminals here...
That's not what they said - but they did say the government was likely/was acting as outside their jurisdiction.
Yes, that means they were criminals.
But it doesn't excuse the criminals they were chasing - just lets them possibly go free since the gov't didn't follow proper procedure.
No one has yet proven these people are criminals either.
Nor is it in any way likely. There is nothing overtly criminal that they've been accused of and that they are being hunted BY people who need to break the law to come up with ways to get them suggests that they are not criminals. It doesn't make it so, but it suggests it. Bad people go after the good guys, good people go after the bad guys.
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Whoops, turns out that the execs of MegaUpload aren't the real criminals here...
That's not what they said - but they did say the government was likely/was acting as outside their jurisdiction.
Yes, that means they were criminals.
But it doesn't excuse the criminals they were chasing - just lets them possibly go free since the gov't didn't follow proper procedure.
Not sure we can call these criminals... maybe accused?
Accused... by foreign governments. I'm not sure they even fall into the generally accepted "accused" category. Like, I accuse the NZ government of having just done something criminal - but you don't report them as "accused criminals" just because I said it, their own government has to do it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Whoops, turns out that the execs of MegaUpload aren't the real criminals here...
That's not what they said - but they did say the government was likely/was acting as outside their jurisdiction.
Yes, that means they were criminals.
But it doesn't excuse the criminals they were chasing - just lets them possibly go free since the gov't didn't follow proper procedure.
Not sure we can call these criminals... maybe accused?
Accused... by foreign governments. I'm not sure they even fall into the generally accepted "accused" category. Like, I accuse the NZ government of having just done something criminal - but you don't report them as "accused criminals" just because I said it, their own government has to do it.
Yep, that's where it doesn't make sense.
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Hurricane Harvey: Texas battered by high winds and rain
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Harvey: Fears grow over severe flooding risk
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41064451 -
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Rain has made it to the big D. Around Texas, that stands for the Big Dry these days. No hurricanes here.
My wife's family is in the disaster zone south of Houston, though. Coast Guard is out there rescuing people far inland in what used to be streets.
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What's amazing is the whole country knew Houston was in for a disaster, but locally they told them it would be fine and to stay put. Now everyone is trapped.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
What's amazing is the whole country knew Houston was in for a disaster, but locally they told them it would be fine and to stay put. Now everyone is trapped.
Isn't that the same thing that happened with Catrina?
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@travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
What's amazing is the whole country knew Houston was in for a disaster, but locally they told them it would be fine and to stay put. Now everyone is trapped.
Isn't that the same thing that happened with Catrina?
Yup, exactly the same. But people had experience from Katrina and should have known not to listen when the government told them to stay.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
What's amazing is the whole country knew Houston was in for a disaster, but locally they told them it would be fine and to stay put. Now everyone is trapped.
Isn't that the same thing that happened with Catrina?
Yup, exactly the same. But people had experience from Katrina and should have known not to listen when the government told them to stay.
Houston is a Hurricane zone too, so what it different for them. They should have known.
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@texkonc said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
What's amazing is the whole country knew Houston was in for a disaster, but locally they told them it would be fine and to stay put. Now everyone is trapped.
Isn't that the same thing that happened with Catrina?
Yup, exactly the same. But people had experience from Katrina and should have known not to listen when the government told them to stay.
Houston is a Hurricane zone too, so what it different for them. They should have known.
And now people south of the city are trapped there, because 45 and 610 are gone.
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I'm interested to see what business impacts this may have because of this disaster, let alone society as a whole.
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'm interested to see what business impacts this may have because of this disaster, let alone society as a whole.
Houston is looking at years of damage.
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Rumour is that the Army Corp of Engineers is at the breaking point and is going to have to open some of the dams to relieve pressure from the reservoirs. This will empty into the already flooded bayous on the west side of the city and will destroy more neighbourhoods.
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In other words, devastation of an entire metropolitan city (4th largest in the US), along with an entire economy, 1-2 less ports for imports/exports, which means even higher prices of fuel and other goods.
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
In other words, devastation of an entire metropolitan city (4th largest in the US), along with an entire economy, 1-2 less ports for imports/exports, which means even higher prices of fuel and other goods.
That's probably trivial to our largest supplier of oil said that they are cutting us off after the US sanctioned them and threatened to invade them. The threat is that Citgo is about to shut down, along with its entire oil supply chain.
Houston is the fourth largest city, but sixth largest metro. You mixed the terms. Dallas is significantly larger than Houston by metro and Philly is in between. Houston just has more people within the city limits.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
That's probably trivial to our largest supplier of oil said that they are cutting us off after the US sanctioned them and threatened to invade them.
While Venezuela is a large exporter to the US, they are far from our largest source.
2016 numbers: https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_epc0_im0_mbblpd_a.htm
I did the math for you. 9.41%
Country Thousand Barrels per Day Canada 3256 41.34% Saudi Arabia 1097 13.93% Venezuela 741 9.41% Mexico 582 7.39% Other 2201 27.94% Total 7877 100.00% -
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
The threat is that Citgo is about to shut down, along with its entire oil supply chain.
And Citgo was specifically exempted from the sanctions.
If the Venezuelan government wants to completely screw themselves by shutting down Citgo, that is totally their choice. Venezuela has been losing share for years now. The rest of OPEC (of which Venezuela is a member) has plenty of other capability if the U.S. wants it.
