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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      No opinion added in the post.

      No, I am adding my opinion against all the rush to judgement the mass media seems to be making.

      Are you sure? What judgement was made by mass media in this case?

      The "opinion" in question is if "why" a target is chosen is a factor. Maybe that is fact, but you are claiming that Doctors without Borders is wrong. So there is a dispute here. One is right, the other is opinion (or just wrong.)

      The media reporting, at least here, is reporting what was said - not what the status is.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said:

        A mistaken target can still be intentional. That is not in question. Because the mistake was choosing that target. Not that the mistake was they missed another target and hit the hospital.

        Does it being a mistake make it not a war crime? Honest question. Just because they regret having done it, or regret getting caught, or regret how much damage it did.... does that change the war crime potential? Many people regret the mistakes made in war, I'm unaware that that has ever been used as a factor in determining if something was a crime or not. Maybe it changes the penalties, but not the fact as to if it was or wasn't a crime.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Is that true or opinion? I honestly don't know. But this conflicts with the statement from Doctor's without Borders. Are you confident in this statement? I feel like this is just opinion as to what does and does not constitute a factor in determining a war crime. I have no opinion as I just don't know how war crimes are determined. But Doctor without Borders likely has some experience.

          Obviously it has to be my opinion as you know I am not a lawyer, let alone a lawyer familiar with international law.

          But mistakes happen in all fields including the field of making war. The difference between a mistake and a war crime is a significant issue.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said:

            But mistakes happen in all fields including the field of making war. The difference between a mistake and a war crime is a significant issue.

            In general, yes. But the point in question, according to the article, was that DWB stated that what the US admitted to constituted a war crime. The US admitted the one thing. DWB stated that that admission made it a war crime.

            That there is more "mistake" factors to consider would be new opinion injected. I'm not saying that it isn't valuable opinion, but that's where the opinion is being put in, right? The US is considered more than opinion when it admits to having done what it did. And DWB is quoted. The media didn't interject an opinion there, just stated what each party stated.

            Now it may be DWB's opinion as to what factors do or do not constitute a war crime, I don't know how good of a source that they are. But I see no opinion in this case from the media who just reported what happened and what was stated.

            The first time that opinion was added, beyond the statements from the group that was bombed which might very well be completely accurate, was the additional opinion that whether or not it was a mistake is a factor in being a war crime.

            I don't have any reason to disbelieve that Doctors without Borders is aware of the law and accurate in their statement. They deal with this all of the time. They might be wrong. They might just be lying. But the media, in this case, didn't add anything that I can see.

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            • DominicaD
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              This is so neat! and pretty! I love the Out to Sea colorway, just wish the band was silver instead of gold.

              https://ringly.com/

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                Airbus: Plane Manufacturer Files Patent That Shows Passengers Stacked Atop One Another

                Airbus filed a patent application for a seating arrangement in its planes that would allow two stacked rows of seats. Drawings appear to show some seats can lie flat as a result, The Verge reports.

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                  http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/5/9457857/what-is-with-this-hellish-airplane-seat-arrangement-from-airbus

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                    Doritos: Police Find Man Surrounded by Chips After He Calls and Says He Is ‘Too High’

                    A man in Youngstown, Ohio, called police after feeling discomfort while under the influence of marijuana. He was found in the fetal position surrounded by Doritos and other snacks, police say.

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                      @mlnews said:

                      Doritos: Police Find Man Surrounded by Chips After He Calls and Says He Is ‘Too High’

                      A man in Youngstown, Ohio, called police after feeling discomfort while under the influence of marijuana. He was found in the fetal position surrounded by Doritos and other snacks, police say.

                      They were going to attack him!

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                      • scottalanmillerS
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                        Which, the chips or the CHIPS?

                        Ha ha, have had to wait a lifetime to have a place to make that joke.

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                          Eastwood Mall: Miniature Train Crashes Into Department Store, Cafaro Company Confirms

                          The mall's miniature train crashed into the window of a Game Stop, the Cafaro Company said. No one was onboard the train at the time of the crash.

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                            Pluto: NASA Says Probe Found Blue Skies and Frozen Water Surfaces on Dwarf Planet

                            The probe sent images that showed Earth-like features on the dwarf planet. Professor Brian Cox said recently that there could be an ocean warm enough for living organisms beneath its frozen surface.

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                              Mars: Photos From Curiosity Rover Show Planet Once Had Lakes and Flowing Water Year-Round

                              A comprehensive analysis of the images published in Science show evidence that Mars once had flowing water, possibly for millions of years, and indicate a climate hospitable for microbial life.

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                                #SCFlood: South Carolina Residents Prepare for 2nd Round of Flooding

                                Gov. Nikki Haley advised residents in Georgetown, Jamestown and Givhans Ferry to evacuate on Thursday as rivers swell following days of heavy rain. At least 17 people have died due to the flooding.

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                                  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34480404

                                  This guy can't catch a break. Thwarts a terrorist attack in France, then gets stabbed in Sacramento.

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                                    California High School Exit Exam: New Bill Awards Diplomas to Students Who Failed Exam

                                    Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill that awards diplomas to students who failed the exit exam since 2004. It also suspends the exam as a graduation requirement for current students.

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                                      Curiosity rover: The reward for 'whale watching' on Mars
                                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34490337

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                                        Ankara explosions leave more than 80 dead - officials
                                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34495161

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                                          Two die in two US university shootings
                                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34487997

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                                            John McCone: CIA Says Former Director Withheld Facts From Probe Into Death of John F. Kennedy

                                            A recently declassified CIA report concluded McCone left out relevant information in his testimony to the Warren Commission, news outlets reported. McCone died in 1991.

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