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    • GreyG
      Grey @Obsolesce
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      @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-04-17/coronavirus-vaccine-ian-frazer/12146616

      Cool chart, what point of mine is it meant to address?

      Just supporting your post.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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        @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

        According to this page from the CDC, over 65% of those who are aged 60+ have been getting the flu vaccination for longer than the last decade. I seen some articles that said it was higher! And also, roughly half of all adults!
        So I think that has a significant impact on reducing the number of deaths due to the flu in the U.S., making it seem like it's a whole lot less of a deal than it actually is.

        Good point. I know of almost no one that gets it and truly forget it even exists until I stop to think about it. I've almost never known someone to have the flu even as a child when vaccines didn't exist, probably rural NY just wasn't likely to spread it. It's weird, because as an adult we talk about the flu like it is a real risk. But before we had vaccines, it was essentially unheard of. So much so, they called other things the flu (norovirus) and even knowing that the flu was a real thing is recent. As recent as 2013 I had a doctor that used the term for things that weren't actually flu and his nurse had to explain that he didn't know what the flu actually was after he left the room.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Grey
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          @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @Obsolesce https://www.abc.net.au/cm/lb/12090836/data/fallback-image-data.png

          https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-04-17/coronavirus-vaccine-ian-frazer/12146616

          Needs Spain. And normalized for population.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            I'm not sure where we were talking about the extra $600 for unemployment - but it definitely has bad side effects.

            https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/she-got-a-paycheck-protection-loan-her-employees-hate-her-for-it.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

              I'm not sure where we were talking about the extra $600 for unemployment - but it definitely has bad side effects.

              https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/she-got-a-paycheck-protection-loan-her-employees-hate-her-for-it.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

              "The anger came from employees who’d determined they’d make more money by collecting unemployment benefits than their normal paychecks."

              Well, we hate them, so meh.

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              • black3dynamiteB
                black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                I'm not sure where we were talking about the extra $600 for unemployment - but it definitely has bad side effects.

                https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/she-got-a-paycheck-protection-loan-her-employees-hate-her-for-it.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

                "The anger came from employees who’d determined they’d make more money by collecting unemployment benefits than their normal paychecks."

                Well, we hate them, so meh.

                Business first.

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite
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                  https://www.cbr.com/hbo-max-launch-date-lineup-announce/

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    I'm not sure where we were talking about the extra $600 for unemployment - but it definitely has bad side effects.

                    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/she-got-a-paycheck-protection-loan-her-employees-hate-her-for-it.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

                    It was on the ML Telegram group chat.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                      @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      I'm not sure where we were talking about the extra $600 for unemployment - but it definitely has bad side effects.

                      https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/she-got-a-paycheck-protection-loan-her-employees-hate-her-for-it.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

                      "The anger came from employees who’d determined they’d make more money by collecting unemployment benefits than their normal paychecks."

                      Well, we hate them, so meh.

                      Business first.

                      Well it means those employees were getting RAISES to be unemployed AND are angry to have free money taken away for being lazy. They should just be fired.

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        I'm not sure where we were talking about the extra $600 for unemployment - but it definitely has bad side effects.

                        https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/she-got-a-paycheck-protection-loan-her-employees-hate-her-for-it.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

                        "The anger came from employees who’d determined they’d make more money by collecting unemployment benefits than their normal paychecks."

                        Well, we hate them, so meh.

                        Business first.

                        Well it means those employees were getting RAISES to be unemployed AND are angry to have free money taken away for being lazy. They should just be fired.

                        Thanks for explaining that.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          I'm not sure where we were talking about the extra $600 for unemployment - but it definitely has bad side effects.

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/she-got-a-paycheck-protection-loan-her-employees-hate-her-for-it.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

                          "The anger came from employees who’d determined they’d make more money by collecting unemployment benefits than their normal paychecks."

                          Well, we hate them, so meh.

                          You can't really expect people to not do what's in their own best interest. It was ridiculous to pay so much, or not make tiers... yeah yeah, excuses to get things done faster.. whatever, this is really damning to the smaller businesses out there that pay those low wages.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            You can't really expect people to not do what's in their own best interest.

                            Doing, and being mad that they don't get free money during a pandemic aren't the same thing. That they took advantage of the money being handed out, that's fine. That they are angry that they don't keep getting more if it when they could be working, not okay.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              whatever, this is really damning to the smaller businesses out there that pay those low wages.

                              No, it's not. Irrational people looking for scapegoats for their own problems blaming those that are not at fault is the issue.

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                              • GreyG
                                Grey @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                whatever, this is really damning to the smaller businesses out there that pay those low wages.

                                No, it's not. Irrational people looking for scapegoats for their own problems blaming those that are not at fault is the issue.

                                Super sad that this is our president right now.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  NY has done sampling across the state and now shows a 14% infection rate among the living, which shows that the believed number of current survivors is at 2.71 million in one state alone (larger than the full global infection rate being reported by the WHO) and the state has said that the number dead from COVID are unknown as they haven't even started to try to count them yet! So the total number that are currently recorded is essentially just the currently infected and the recovered, the total number ever infected will need the dead count added in, once they know it. Putting NY quite a bit head of the supposed world numbers.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    NY has done sampling across the state and now shows a 14% infection rate among the living,

                                    I saw the fine print of that. They sampled 1024 (it was 10XX, 24 stuck in my head) people. That means the margin of error is +/- 3% for a population the size of NY state. Assuming at 95% confidence level in the data.

                                    But they used anti-body test kits for this which we also know are not fully accurate.

                                    I did not see how much of NY was sampled, nor in what proportion (city vs rural) Because that will also make a large difference in the confidence level of the data..

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      So Cuomo says 3000 tests collected and gave weighted states by region, so that part is nice. That test count drops the margin of error to 2%

                                      471f3042-53a7-4afc-ba8e-a090bf9a39b7-image.png

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce
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                                        The Swedish Exception?

                                        Sweden’s democratic system of government has a more pronounced epistocratic element than other comparable countries. The term means, roughly, rule by experts. By law and by tradition, Swedish politicians can’t tell the various government agencies what to do, and agencies count relatively few political appointees among their staff. This means that many of the day-to-day decisions relating to government business are made by staff hired on the basis of domain-relevant expertise, rather than political connections. “Ministerial rule” is expressly forbidden.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Trump becomes the "tide pod" president after suggesting the possible efficacy of ingesting or injecting household cleaning products - copying the dangerous and laughable millenial trend that's so recently been big news.

                                          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/23/coronavirus-twitter-reacts-tide-pods-jokes-after-trump-comments/3017279001/

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                                          • RojoLocoR
                                            RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            Trump becomes the "tide pod" president after suggesting the possible efficacy of ingesting or injecting household cleaning products - copying the dangerous and laughable millenial trend that's so recently been big news.

                                            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/23/coronavirus-twitter-reacts-tide-pods-jokes-after-trump-comments/3017279001/

                                            Everyone needs to stop telling the stupid people to not do this. Let nature take its course.

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