CloudatCost OpenDNS Issue
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@Bill-Kindle said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
We can't all have your level of income @scottalanmiller, or get everything you get for free or insane discounts.
Not having a income to afford something doesn't entitle you to free, reduce stuff or to steal it. Seriously Go in Walmart and try that. just walk out saying it's okay I can't afford this item. That's entitlement attitude someone else has it so I should get it. It's stealing it does not matter it it's a tangible product or not.
Again, you view using a proper license in this way as stealing. I don't. Argue all you want, but the logic in my head will not view it that way. The example you use is irrelevant to this example.
A.J., this is why you fail so much, so hard, so often. You cannot admit you are wrong when you are wrong.
In the meantime, don't be surprised if people start reporting you to the BSA:
https://reporting.bsa.org/r/report/add.aspx?src=us&ln=en-us
Not to mention, but you may also be violating the TOC of your FIOS connection from Verizon since you are on a consumer plan.
That is actually not true. I openly admit when I'm wrong. When someone wants to tell me I'm being a complete idiot or doing something bass ackwards, I always listen. I choose whether or not to take their opinions seriously or not. @scottalanmiller is my mentor, and I don't always agree with him either. But I will always admit when I'm wrong. A very good friend taught me a few years ago that when you f*** up, just admit it. Don't try to blame someone or something else. You f***ed up, just own up and take what happens. One of the single biggest and most helpful pieces of advice I've ever received. What makes me seem like I don't admit to it is that I don't back down from my opinions easily. Also, my perspective on things is often different from others, and many people view things from a strict technical standpoint that I view as a perspective matter. It is what it is.
You can try to rationalize the situation all you want. What you are doing is wrong. It's also very unprofessional to continue to do mental gymnastics to try and legitimize a illegit situation.
But that's just one person's opinion.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Kelly said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@Kelly said:
@thanksajdotcom I find your apparent lack of caring about your online perspectives incongruous in light of your proposed session at SWA2015. You might want to reconsider some of the things that are now publicly tied to your "brand".
I don't necessarily recommend people mimic how I post or all my actions. My presentation is more about utilizing professional networks to network yourself with vendors and companies. In addition, it talks about other ways to market yourself as a brand. My brand is different from someone else's. I don't claim everything I do is right or the best way. However, a lot of people from a lot of different places know my name. I will soon be published on a very major website in the IT world. While I may get criticized for some of the things I say, I've been very successful for someone my age. I've worked very hard to become so. As much as people may not believe it, I work very hard and very carefully to maintain what I've built.
Right now your "brand" is associated with unethical practices. It doesn't matter what you tell people to do if your own brand is tarnished. What happens if, after you've been published, some people go searching your name, hit this thread, and get you blackballed from the major IT rags. That isn't beyond the realm of possibility. In all honesty the more well known you become the scrupulously you have to guard your brand from hints of this stuff.
Exactly. That's why I said ever heard the phrase the bigger they are the harder they fall?
I don't disagree. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. However, I'm less afraid of falling than being something I'm not. I will not pretend anymore. I've put up with too much BS in my life trying to be things I wasn't. If I need to change, I will. But I will not put on a facade. If my opinion isn't popular, IDGAF. The jobs I want to work at may not agree with my opinion (or maybe they do), but they will appreciate that I stand behind my convictions. One reason I'm the level of salesman I am is because I don't bullshit. I sell what I believe in, and that passion carries over to the customer. I don't filter well either. To me it's a form of "hiding" who and what I am. I sincerely do appreciate you trying to help me. I hope you know that. I do work on controlling certain things about myself in both an online, in-person, and public presence. However, filters are not my strong suit.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@PSX_Defector said:
@Bill-Kindle said:
Not to mention, but you may also be violating the TOC of your FIOS connection from Verizon since you are on a consumer plan.
Now here's something that I do know the law talkin' about.
No major ISP, from Google Fiber to AT&T to Comcast, allows "servers" on their residential connections. What constitutes a "server" is up for major debate. Needless to say, most don't care. They care more if you are slurping down bandwidth like me at an open bar.
And even if it was hosted on a residential connection, again, its breach of contract. The remedy from VZ et. al. would be to disconnect you. Not send you to the gulag.
The only "server" I have on a residential connection is a web server, which is only serving HTTP traffic, and not very much. Non-existent load from even the connection to the house's standpoint. What's technically allowed versus what your ISP actually cares about is totally different. In my opinion, if the ISP doesn't care, even if it's outside the official TOS, why should I?
I know for a fact it's against my TOC with Time Warner Cable to run ANY server from my home connection that is served up to the public. As PSX stated earlier, they don't send you to the gulag, but the sure in the hell don't send you a disconnect notice either. You just suddenly don't have a connection anymore and it's a PITA to get service reconnected.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
What's technically allowed versus what your ISP actually cares about is totally different. In my opinion, if the ISP doesn't care, even if it's outside the official TOS, why should I?So, your moral compass is completely dependent upon what someone else thinks? If you're with a group of people breaking the law, you're okay with it because they are? If you visit a country where having sex with kids is allowed, you're okay with it because they are?
Your decisions are yours. You know you are breaking the TOS here. You know you are breaking the MS license talked about before. Just because you haven't been caught and probably won't be caught changes nothing. Your moral compass is broken. Admit it and move on, breaking whatever rules you feel you can get away with breaking.
And, while doing that, go on and wonder why your IT career seems to keep falling apart each and every time you seem to get a decent job.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
The jobs I want to work at may not agree with my opinion (or maybe they do), but they will appreciate that I stand behind my convictions.
The problem that you face is the lack of convictions. No one is saying that you are inconsistent.
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I think the point has been made. Let's not keep backing @thanksajdotcom into a corner. Give him a chance to do the right thing.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
@Kelly said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@Kelly said:
@thanksajdotcom I find your apparent lack of caring about your online perspectives incongruous in light of your proposed session at SWA2015. You might want to reconsider some of the things that are now publicly tied to your "brand".
I don't necessarily recommend people mimic how I post or all my actions. My presentation is more about utilizing professional networks to network yourself with vendors and companies. In addition, it talks about other ways to market yourself as a brand. My brand is different from someone else's. I don't claim everything I do is right or the best way. However, a lot of people from a lot of different places know my name. I will soon be published on a very major website in the IT world. While I may get criticized for some of the things I say, I've been very successful for someone my age. I've worked very hard to become so. As much as people may not believe it, I work very hard and very carefully to maintain what I've built.
Right now your "brand" is associated with unethical practices. It doesn't matter what you tell people to do if your own brand is tarnished. What happens if, after you've been published, some people go searching your name, hit this thread, and get you blackballed from the major IT rags. That isn't beyond the realm of possibility. In all honesty the more well known you become the scrupulously you have to guard your brand from hints of this stuff.
Exactly. That's why I said ever heard the phrase the bigger they are the harder they fall?
I don't disagree. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. However, I'm less afraid of falling than being something I'm not. I will not pretend anymore. I've put up with too much BS in my life trying to be things I wasn't. If I need to change, I will. But I will not put on a facade. If my opinion isn't popular, IDGAF. The jobs I want to work at may not agree with my opinion (or maybe they do), but they will appreciate that I stand behind my convictions. One reason I'm the level of salesman I am is because I don't bullshit. I sell what I believe in, and that passion carries over to the customer. I don't filter well either. To me it's a form of "hiding" who and what I am. I sincerely do appreciate you trying to help me. I hope you know that. I do work on controlling certain things about myself in both an online, in-person, and public presence. However, filters are not my strong suit.
Why would a customer buy anything when you just stated and have before that stealing is okay. They'll just find out your stance go home and illegally download Microsoft office etc.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
However, filters are not my strong suit.
This is the most important component of controlling brand.
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@IRJ said:
I think the point has been made. Let's not keep backing @thanksajdotcom into a corner. Give him a chance to do the right thing.
Agreed, the point is made, there isn't the slightest doubt anywhere.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
However, filters are not my strong suit.
This is the most important component of controlling brand.
Hey I did not say that.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
However, filters are not my strong suit.
This is the most important component of controlling brand.
Hey I did not say that.
I know, stupid quoting system.
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@IRJ said:
I think the point has been made. Let's not keep backing @thanksajdotcom into a corner. Give him a chance to do the right thing.
He backs himself into corners and tries to rationalize situations he puts himself in. That's no one else's fault but his own.
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@PaulBunion said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
What's technically allowed versus what your ISP actually cares about is totally different. In my opinion, if the ISP doesn't care, even if it's outside the official TOS, why should I?
So, your moral compass is completely dependent upon what someone else thinks? If you're with a group of people breaking the law, you're okay with it because they are? If you visit a country where having sex with kids is allowed, you're okay with it because they are?
Your decisions are yours. You know you are breaking the TOS here. You know you are breaking the MS license talked about before. Just because you haven't been caught and probably won't be caught changes nothing. Your moral compass is broken. Admit it and move on, breaking whatever rules you feel you can get away with breaking.
And, while doing that, go on and wonder why your IT career seems to keep falling apart each and every time you seem to get a decent job.
No it is not. I take what others think and feel into consideration, combine it with my own views, and proceed accordingly.
I am also a big picture thinker. In the large scheme of things, does using a key in the cloud instead of locally when it's legitimate locally, but technically not in the cloud going to hurt anyone? No. Did anyone die, lose a job, go without food, or suffer some other harm? No. I don't even think of this in the same way as I do speeding on the highway. When you speed, there is a higher risk you could lose control and hurt someone, or worse, kill someone. You could harm yourself or wreck your car and then have no ride to get to work, etc. Still, most people do that every day.
In the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes. You say my moral compass is broken. I just choose what things I'm going to choose to exert energy caring about, because I don't have the energy to spare worrying about little, inconsequential stuff anymore.
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@Bill-Kindle said:
@IRJ said:
I think the point has been made. Let's not keep backing @thanksajdotcom into a corner. Give him a chance to do the right thing.
He backs himself into corners and tries to rationalize situations he puts himself in. That's no one else's fault but his own.
I agree, but what is the point in continually bashing him? The point has been made. Many people showed up on this thread just to bash him. They don't show up here to answer technical questions. I am not talking about you, Bill.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
The jobs I want to work at may not agree with my opinion (or maybe they do), but they will appreciate that I stand behind my convictions.
The problem that you face is the lack of convictions. No one is saying that you are inconsistent.
Really? The fact my convictions don't line up with yours doesn't mean I lack convictions. It means I lack your convictions.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@PaulBunion said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
What's technically allowed versus what your ISP actually cares about is totally different. In my opinion, if the ISP doesn't care, even if it's outside the official TOS, why should I?
So, your moral compass is completely dependent upon what someone else thinks? If you're with a group of people breaking the law, you're okay with it because they are? If you visit a country where having sex with kids is allowed, you're okay with it because they are?
Your decisions are yours. You know you are breaking the TOS here. You know you are breaking the MS license talked about before. Just because you haven't been caught and probably won't be caught changes nothing. Your moral compass is broken. Admit it and move on, breaking whatever rules you feel you can get away with breaking.
And, while doing that, go on and wonder why your IT career seems to keep falling apart each and every time you seem to get a decent job.
No it is not. I take what others think and feel into consideration, combine it with my own views, and proceed accordingly.
I am also a big picture thinker. In the large scheme of things, does using a key in the cloud instead of locally when it's legitimate locally, but technically not in the cloud going to hurt anyone? No. Did anyone die, lose a job, go without food, or suffer some other harm? No. I don't even think of this in the same way as I do speeding on the highway. When you speed, there is a higher risk you could lose control and hurt someone, or worse, kill someone. You could harm yourself or wreck your car and then have no ride to get to work, etc. Still, most people do that every day.
In the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes. You say my moral compass is broken. I just choose what things I'm going to choose to exert energy caring about, because I don't have the energy to spare worrying about little, inconsequential stuff anymore.
I see. So, it's all about whether you think it matters or not. The fact that these things do matter, to others, isn't relevant to you because your 'big picture thinking' is more important than the actual written laws.
Good luck with that.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
The jobs I want to work at may not agree with my opinion (or maybe they do), but they will appreciate that I stand behind my convictions.
The problem that you face is the lack of convictions. No one is saying that you are inconsistent.
Really? The fact my convictions don't line up with yours doesn't mean I lack convictions. It means I lack your convictions.
AJ, I am trying to defend you but you aren't making it easy
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@PaulBunion said:
You know you are breaking the TOS here. You know you are breaking the MS license talked about before.
Actually, per C@C's TOS, that's perfectly fine. If he was "hosting" at home, he would be fine per Scott, but in violation of TOS for whatever ISP you are with for the most part.
Although I don't agree with Scott's analysis of the minutia of MS licenses with regards to it, he makes it sound like you can NEVER use Windows on a cloud provider unless you buy it from the cloud provider. Retail channels would allow some really permissible uses that you don't get from others like OEM or VL, like downgrade rights all the way down. And each version would have differences in how you get it. In this instance, a Datacenter version of Windows applied to a cluster which you cannot say for 100% certain has the right amount of sockets would fly in my eyes as a very grey use, probably against use. But if I went out and bought a retail copy of Windows Server 2012 R2 Enterprise it would fly just fine. Which brings us to the downgrade rights on Datacenter, which DOES allow one to downgrade to Enterprise or Standard if so required. Again, super, super grey area, probably not right. But it doesn't in my eyes rise to the level of arrrrrrrr matey.
This is a question better asked of a MS license guy over at another site.
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@PaulBunion said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@PaulBunion said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
What's technically allowed versus what your ISP actually cares about is totally different. In my opinion, if the ISP doesn't care, even if it's outside the official TOS, why should I?
So, your moral compass is completely dependent upon what someone else thinks? If you're with a group of people breaking the law, you're okay with it because they are? If you visit a country where having sex with kids is allowed, you're okay with it because they are?
Your decisions are yours. You know you are breaking the TOS here. You know you are breaking the MS license talked about before. Just because you haven't been caught and probably won't be caught changes nothing. Your moral compass is broken. Admit it and move on, breaking whatever rules you feel you can get away with breaking.
And, while doing that, go on and wonder why your IT career seems to keep falling apart each and every time you seem to get a decent job.
No it is not. I take what others think and feel into consideration, combine it with my own views, and proceed accordingly.
I am also a big picture thinker. In the large scheme of things, does using a key in the cloud instead of locally when it's legitimate locally, but technically not in the cloud going to hurt anyone? No. Did anyone die, lose a job, go without food, or suffer some other harm? No. I don't even think of this in the same way as I do speeding on the highway. When you speed, there is a higher risk you could lose control and hurt someone, or worse, kill someone. You could harm yourself or wreck your car and then have no ride to get to work, etc. Still, most people do that every day.
In the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes. You say my moral compass is broken. I just choose what things I'm going to choose to exert energy caring about, because I don't have the energy to spare worrying about little, inconsequential stuff anymore.
I see. So, it's all about whether you think it matters or not. The fact that these things do matter, to others, isn't relevant to you because your 'big picture thinking' is more important than the actual written laws.
Good luck with that.
I want a New 500/512GB SSD, Ubquiti Edge Router Lite, and UAP Pro. I guess that's my big picture so stealing it wouldn't really hurt anyone. What's the harm. It's only technically illegal if I get caught. And it fits my big picture.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@PaulBunion said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
What's technically allowed versus what your ISP actually cares about is totally different. In my opinion, if the ISP doesn't care, even if it's outside the official TOS, why should I?
So, your moral compass is completely dependent upon what someone else thinks? If you're with a group of people breaking the law, you're okay with it because they are? If you visit a country where having sex with kids is allowed, you're okay with it because they are?
Your decisions are yours. You know you are breaking the TOS here. You know you are breaking the MS license talked about before. Just because you haven't been caught and probably won't be caught changes nothing. Your moral compass is broken. Admit it and move on, breaking whatever rules you feel you can get away with breaking.
And, while doing that, go on and wonder why your IT career seems to keep falling apart each and every time you seem to get a decent job.
No it is not. I take what others think and feel into consideration, combine it with my own views, and proceed accordingly.
I am also a big picture thinker. In the large scheme of things, does using a key in the cloud instead of locally when it's legitimate locally, but technically not in the cloud going to hurt anyone? No. Did anyone die, lose a job, go without food, or suffer some other harm? No. I don't even think of this in the same way as I do speeding on the highway. When you speed, there is a higher risk you could lose control and hurt someone, or worse, kill someone. You could harm yourself or wreck your car and then have no ride to get to work, etc. Still, most people do that every day.
Taking this analogy A.J., think about it this way. You've very publicly exposed your current IP to this server, that's a public facing wide open DNS server (It doesn't matter if it's got Webroot on it or not). How long do you think it will take for a rouge to infiltrate and commandeer that server for their own purposes right under your nose? And those who decided to use your DNS server are suddenly at risk. Maybe not physically, but they are at risk of harm. Digital harm.
