ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.
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When did they add the ribbon? I haven't looked at it in many years....
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OnlyOffice is a pretty nice alternative to MS Office. If they had an email client that would definitely be a huge plus for their product.
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@syko24 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
OnlyOffice is a pretty nice alternative to MS Office. If they had an email client that would definitely be a huge plus for their product.
An email client? When would that be useful? All business email products have their own clients when needed and use web interfaces for most things (including offline handling.) Generally email clients as standalone things aren't considered a good thing (think the disaster that is Outlook.) I think no one offers one because no one should want it.
What are you looking to do with an email client? What's the use case?
I know lots of people still use Outlook because users are addicted to it. But if you are going to leave Outlook, you'd not move them to another fat client, but to the modern interfaces everyone offers.
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@scottalanmiller said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@syko24 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
OnlyOffice is a pretty nice alternative to MS Office. If they had an email client that would definitely be a huge plus for their product.
An email client? When would that be useful? All business email products have their own clients when needed and use web interfaces for most things (including offline handling.) Generally email clients as standalone things aren't considered a good thing (think the disaster that is Outlook.) I think no one offers one because no one should want it.
What are you looking to do with an email client? What's the use case?
I know lots of people still use Outlook because users are addicted to it. But if you are going to leave Outlook, you'd not move them to another fat client, but to the modern interfaces everyone offers.
Outlook is so much better when using the PWA version, even with it you should be getting rid of the fat client!
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@travisdh1 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@scottalanmiller said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@syko24 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
OnlyOffice is a pretty nice alternative to MS Office. If they had an email client that would definitely be a huge plus for their product.
An email client? When would that be useful? All business email products have their own clients when needed and use web interfaces for most things (including offline handling.) Generally email clients as standalone things aren't considered a good thing (think the disaster that is Outlook.) I think no one offers one because no one should want it.
What are you looking to do with an email client? What's the use case?
I know lots of people still use Outlook because users are addicted to it. But if you are going to leave Outlook, you'd not move them to another fat client, but to the modern interfaces everyone offers.
Outlook is so much better when using the PWA version, even with it you should be getting rid of the fat client!
Not for someone who has multiple email addresses. Having to constantly click back and forth to change the user account is not ideal.
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@scottalanmiller said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@syko24 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
OnlyOffice is a pretty nice alternative to MS Office. If they had an email client that would definitely be a huge plus for their product.
An email client? When would that be useful? All business email products have their own clients when needed and use web interfaces for most things (including offline handling.) Generally email clients as standalone things aren't considered a good thing (think the disaster that is Outlook.) I think no one offers one because no one should want it.
What are you looking to do with an email client? What's the use case?
I know lots of people still use Outlook because users are addicted to it. But if you are going to leave Outlook, you'd not move them to another fat client, but to the modern interfaces everyone offers.
While I agree that fat clients are not always the best option, most end users prefer Outlook as you said. My point was having something like emclient or similar would make OnlyOffice more of an apples to apples comparison to MS Office.
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@syko24 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@travisdh1 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@scottalanmiller said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@syko24 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
OnlyOffice is a pretty nice alternative to MS Office. If they had an email client that would definitely be a huge plus for their product.
An email client? When would that be useful? All business email products have their own clients when needed and use web interfaces for most things (including offline handling.) Generally email clients as standalone things aren't considered a good thing (think the disaster that is Outlook.) I think no one offers one because no one should want it.
What are you looking to do with an email client? What's the use case?
I know lots of people still use Outlook because users are addicted to it. But if you are going to leave Outlook, you'd not move them to another fat client, but to the modern interfaces everyone offers.
Outlook is so much better when using the PWA version, even with it you should be getting rid of the fat client!
Not for someone who has multiple email addresses. Having to constantly click back and forth to change the user account is not ideal.
Don't have that problem with my web client. That functionality is built in.
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@travisdh1 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@scottalanmiller said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@syko24 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
OnlyOffice is a pretty nice alternative to MS Office. If they had an email client that would definitely be a huge plus for their product.
An email client? When would that be useful? All business email products have their own clients when needed and use web interfaces for most things (including offline handling.) Generally email clients as standalone things aren't considered a good thing (think the disaster that is Outlook.) I think no one offers one because no one should want it.
What are you looking to do with an email client? What's the use case?
I know lots of people still use Outlook because users are addicted to it. But if you are going to leave Outlook, you'd not move them to another fat client, but to the modern interfaces everyone offers.
Outlook is so much better when using the PWA version, even with it you should be getting rid of the fat client!
Then it stops being Outlook
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@syko24 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@scottalanmiller said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@syko24 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
OnlyOffice is a pretty nice alternative to MS Office. If they had an email client that would definitely be a huge plus for their product.
An email client? When would that be useful? All business email products have their own clients when needed and use web interfaces for most things (including offline handling.) Generally email clients as standalone things aren't considered a good thing (think the disaster that is Outlook.) I think no one offers one because no one should want it.
What are you looking to do with an email client? What's the use case?
I know lots of people still use Outlook because users are addicted to it. But if you are going to leave Outlook, you'd not move them to another fat client, but to the modern interfaces everyone offers.
While I agree that fat clients are not always the best option, most end users prefer Outlook as you said. My point was having something like emclient or similar would make OnlyOffice more of an apples to apples comparison to MS Office.
Preferring Outlook, though, isn't solved by having a different fat client anymore than having a web client. The desire for Outlook is a specific thing. If that's what people want, you end up stuck with it.
Nothing will be apples to apples as it's conceptually not really possible as the issue isn't functionality (nor desirable.)
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@scottalanmiller said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@travisdh1 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@scottalanmiller said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@syko24 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
OnlyOffice is a pretty nice alternative to MS Office. If they had an email client that would definitely be a huge plus for their product.
An email client? When would that be useful? All business email products have their own clients when needed and use web interfaces for most things (including offline handling.) Generally email clients as standalone things aren't considered a good thing (think the disaster that is Outlook.) I think no one offers one because no one should want it.
What are you looking to do with an email client? What's the use case?
I know lots of people still use Outlook because users are addicted to it. But if you are going to leave Outlook, you'd not move them to another fat client, but to the modern interfaces everyone offers.Outlook is so much better when using the PWA version, even with it you should be getting rid of the fat client!
Not for someone who has multiple email addresses. Having to constantly click back and forth to change the user account is not ideal.
Don't have that problem with my web client. That functionality is built in.
I use Thunderbird becuase I have few email accounts, and I do not like a single web client I use(d). I do not like Gmail nor online Outlook.
I did not even knew that they support multiple accounts.
Can you name some web clients that you like, and that support multiple accounts?(btw - I hate emails as a communication tool)
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@Mario-Jakovina said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@scottalanmiller said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@travisdh1 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@scottalanmiller said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
@syko24 said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
OnlyOffice is a pretty nice alternative to MS Office. If they had an email client that would definitely be a huge plus for their product.
An email client? When would that be useful? All business email products have their own clients when needed and use web interfaces for most things (including offline handling.) Generally email clients as standalone things aren't considered a good thing (think the disaster that is Outlook.) I think no one offers one because no one should want it.
What are you looking to do with an email client? What's the use case?
I know lots of people still use Outlook because users are addicted to it. But if you are going to leave Outlook, you'd not move them to another fat client, but to the modern interfaces everyone offers.Outlook is so much better when using the PWA version, even with it you should be getting rid of the fat client!
Not for someone who has multiple email addresses. Having to constantly click back and forth to change the user account is not ideal.
Don't have that problem with my web client. That functionality is built in.
I use Thunderbird becuase I have few email accounts, and I do not like a single web client I use(d). I do not like Gmail nor online Outlook.
I did not even knew that they support multiple accounts.
Can you name some web clients that you like, and that support multiple accounts?(btw - I hate emails as a communication tool)
Yeah, email in Thunderbird is superior to any web client, especially when using multiple accounts or trying to do advanced stuff.
Problem is that email takes up too much time. So for common users it's better to have one account only, wean them off from email in general and migrate them to the web client or mobile app. The simpler, the better.
BTW, we use Zoho and you can integrate other imap/pop3 mailboxes as well.
https://www.zoho.com/mail/help/external-imap-accounts.html
Last time I tried it though I found some bugs and I haven't checked if they've fixed them yet. -
@Mario-Jakovina said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
I use Thunderbird becuase I have few email accounts, and I do not like a single web client I use(d). I do not like Gmail nor online Outlook.
Those are definitely crap. I'd not use them as examples of good web clients.
We use Zoho and find it far superior to Thunderbird. Plus it handles multiple accounts, and handles offline usage easily. It has clients that encapsulate it for Windows, MacOS, Linux, iOS and Android, so users feeling that they need a client can be satisfied and since it feels more modern an advanced than any fat client on the market, it never occurs to them that it's a web interface under the hood.
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@Mario-Jakovina said in ONLYOFFICE has released ONLYOFFICE Docs version 7.1.:
(btw - I hate emails as a communication tool)
I'm an "email first" person, it's my preferred tool for everything communications related. DeltaChat is great and is a WhatsApp / Telegram style chat client built on top of email. (That's actually a form of email client to check out just because it is interesting to see it and realize it is a mail client.) I've run email hosting businesses and run email for one of the world's biggest companies, so I'm pretty passionate about email
Zoho is definitely my number one. But it is proprietary.
If you want to see open source clients in action, I'd recommend starting with MailCow to see what is out there. RoundCube is big, too.
