Exchange Environment - Lab
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@dave247 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
The majority of people on this forum are arrogant assholes who like to pick apart your posts and criticize and insult what you are doing.
Some may see that way... while others will see it as questioning motives and pointing people in a better direction to improve their career and broaden their skillset to become more useful in the market.
But it is understandable some may not want that who are happy where they are and take offense to a better approach.
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I can see what others are saying, onsite exchange not really no point, but a lot of MSP's still host their own copy of exchange normally in a datacenter and you could sell your own hosted exchange to customers. This only would be advantageous with lots of users. But you just cannot beat the costs of 365 with normal Businesses.
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@obsolesce said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@dave247 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
The majority of people on this forum are arrogant assholes who like to pick apart your posts and criticize and insult what you are doing.
Some may see that way... while others will see it as questioning motives and pointing people in a better direction to improve their career and broaden their skillset to become more useful in the market.
But it is understandable some may not want that who are happy where they are and take offense to a better approach.
Yes, but there is a difference between constructive criticism and completely unhelpful sarcastic replies. I am referring to the latter.
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@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
I can see what others are saying, onsite exchange not really no point, but a lot of MSP's still host their own copy of exchange normally in a datacenter and you could sell your own hosted exchange to customers. This only would be advantageous with lots of users. But you just cannot beat the costs of 365 with normal Businesses.
If you want to host email, why would you use the worst platform possible to find? Why not Zimbra for example?
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@travisdh1 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
I can see what others are saying, onsite exchange not really no point, but a lot of MSP's still host their own copy of exchange normally in a datacenter and you could sell your own hosted exchange to customers. This only would be advantageous with lots of users. But you just cannot beat the costs of 365 with normal Businesses.
If you want to host email, why would you use the worst platform possible to find? Why not Zimbra for example?
Case in point.
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@travisdh1 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
I can see what others are saying, onsite exchange not really no point, but a lot of MSP's still host their own copy of exchange normally in a datacenter and you could sell your own hosted exchange to customers. This only would be advantageous with lots of users. But you just cannot beat the costs of 365 with normal Businesses.
If you want to host email, why would you use the worst platform possible to find? Why not Zimbra for example?
I'm not on about me, I personally use mailcow. But I'm stating big MSP'S and hosting companies still use hosted exchange in a datacenter enviroment.
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@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@travisdh1 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
I can see what others are saying, onsite exchange not really no point, but a lot of MSP's still host their own copy of exchange normally in a datacenter and you could sell your own hosted exchange to customers. This only would be advantageous with lots of users. But you just cannot beat the costs of 365 with normal Businesses.
If you want to host email, why would you use the worst platform possible to find? Why not Zimbra for example?
I'm not on about me, I personally use mailcow. But I'm stating big MSP'S and hosting companies still use hosted exchange in a datacenter enviroment.
I guess that requires the discussion about management not caring about the company and treating it like a hobby business yet again.
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@travisdh1 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@travisdh1 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
I can see what others are saying, onsite exchange not really no point, but a lot of MSP's still host their own copy of exchange normally in a datacenter and you could sell your own hosted exchange to customers. This only would be advantageous with lots of users. But you just cannot beat the costs of 365 with normal Businesses.
If you want to host email, why would you use the worst platform possible to find? Why not Zimbra for example?
I'm not on about me, I personally use mailcow. But I'm stating big MSP'S and hosting companies still use hosted exchange in a datacenter enviroment.
I guess that requires the discussion about management not caring about the company and treating it like a hobby business yet again.
What are you even talking about?
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@laksh1999 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
Hi Team,
I am trying to create a Exchange 2016 in Microsoft 2016 server DataCenter Evaluation version.I am trying to do this from my virtualbox application.Any one have followed this lab setup before ?
Followed Link : https://www.prajwaldesai.com/step-by-step-guide-to-install-exchange-server-2016/
Your whole issue here is that you didn't follow the instructions.
You first need to mount the Exchange Server 2016 installation Media.
Then from the location of where your media is mounted, you run that command.
What you are doing, is blindly running commands from where ever. You aren't running the command from the proper directory, which only you can know where you have mounted or extracted the Exchange Server 2016 media.
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@obsolesce said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
while others will see it as questioning motives and pointing people in a better direction to improve their career and broaden their skillset to become more useful in the market.
But NOWHERE did he indicate that was his goal.
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@travisdh1 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
If you want to host email, why would you use the worst platform possible to find? Why not Zimbra for example?
NOWHERE did he state what his reasons were for wanting to do this.
Why would you suggest he move to Zimbra (or others) when you have no idea what he is trying to accomplish?
Too many people jump to conclusions, and they are wrong most of the time.
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@jasgot said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
But NOWHERE did he indicate that was his goal.
He mentioned his goal was to learn new things. It's fair to assume the purpose of that is to broaden their skillset, therefore improving their career.
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@obsolesce said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
He mentioned his goal was to learn new things. It's fair to assume the purpose of that is to broaden their skillset, therefore improving their career.
Yes. I see that now. It's still so sad this conversation went south before he stated that (or at all).
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@dave247 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@travisdh1 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@travisdh1 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
I can see what others are saying, onsite exchange not really no point, but a lot of MSP's still host their own copy of exchange normally in a datacenter and you could sell your own hosted exchange to customers. This only would be advantageous with lots of users. But you just cannot beat the costs of 365 with normal Businesses.
If you want to host email, why would you use the worst platform possible to find? Why not Zimbra for example?
I'm not on about me, I personally use mailcow. But I'm stating big MSP'S and hosting companies still use hosted exchange in a datacenter enviroment.
I guess that requires the discussion about management not caring about the company and treating it like a hobby business yet again.
What are you even talking about?
you must be new around here - This is a general theme in many, I'd go so far as to say most, discussions around here.
Don't treat your company like a hobby. Do business correct, i.e. don't use local Exchange unless you have a regulation forcing you too.
Run the company like a real company - care about costs, do the 'right' thing, not just the simple get it done thing, etc. -
@dashrender said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@dave247 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@travisdh1 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@travisdh1 said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
I can see what others are saying, onsite exchange not really no point, but a lot of MSP's still host their own copy of exchange normally in a datacenter and you could sell your own hosted exchange to customers. This only would be advantageous with lots of users. But you just cannot beat the costs of 365 with normal Businesses.
If you want to host email, why would you use the worst platform possible to find? Why not Zimbra for example?
I'm not on about me, I personally use mailcow. But I'm stating big MSP'S and hosting companies still use hosted exchange in a datacenter enviroment.
I guess that requires the discussion about management not caring about the company and treating it like a hobby business yet again.
What are you even talking about?
you must be new around here - This is a general theme in many, I'd go so far as to say most, discussions around here.
Don't treat your company like a hobby. Do business correct, i.e. don't use local Exchange unless you have a regulation forcing you too.
Run the company like a real company - care about costs, do the 'right' thing, not just the simple get it done thing, etc.No, I'm not that new around here but I don't view that many threads to be honest.
Arguing about someone treating their business like a hobby is stupid because at a certain point it's going to come down to matter of opinion, knowledge and experience - all things that are subject to change as people and businesses grow. Just because someone is using Product X vs Product Z doesn't mean they don't give a shit about making the business money.
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At the end of the day, if the op want's to learn exchange that's up to him. This is a forum where we can give constructive criticism but, there is also no need to go on about it and give a little help instead. Just a thought??
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@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
At the end of the day, if the op want's to learn exchange that's up to him. This is a forum where we can give constructive criticism but, there is also no need to go on about it and give a little help instead. Just a thought??
At this point I was just trying to let dave know of the typical MO around here.
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As for the OP's error? No clue - but the person who asked if he actually had AD setup or not - that's a great starting place.
Has the OP looked at all of the prerequisites and ensured they are all in place before trying to install Exchange?
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@dashrender said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
@stuartjordan said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
At the end of the day, if the op want's to learn exchange that's up to him. This is a forum where we can give constructive criticism but, there is also no need to go on about it and give a little help instead. Just a thought??
At this point I was just trying to let dave know of the typical MO around here.
Yes, I understand that, in summary, it is the unified intent of the original initiative of SAM (and others) over at Spiceworks, before the banning and exodus. Given what that place was/still is, I guess I don't blame you all for the general tone and approach - but gottdamn, most the new posters here might be confused but they are friendly and want to learn. No need to push them away with rudeness.
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@dashrender said in Exchange Environment - Lab:
As for the OP's error? No clue - but the person who asked if he actually had AD setup or not - that's a great starting place.
Has the OP looked at all of the prerequisites and ensured they are all in place before trying to install Exchange?
We're beyond that now. I answered his issue with why it happened, what happened, and how to fix it here.
