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    Water Closet
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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Handily, single spacing is an easy way to identify people who don't take their own writing as seriously. Although with so many systems either automatically adding spaces or removing them it can be tough to tell who is doing it and who is not.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Double spacing is only questioned today because of HTML which strips white space. If you are writing in a word process, writing for print or have used computers for any purpose other than HTML then double spacing has always applied and there was never the slightest hint of logic as to why to avoid it.

        The web was never designed for quality type reproduction and the lack of double space support is just one artifact of that heritage. Every system meant for quality reproduction does support double spacing. It's an extension of lazy kids who lack all context and think that the web is everything and don't realize why it is lacking on the web and don't realize that double spacing existed always and are used to not using well written documents that they don't realize the importance in both clear communications and in making the written word easier to read.

        Sloppy is sloppy. It shows that someone doesn't care about the quality of their output.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Sloppy is sloppy. It shows that someone doesn't care about the quality of their output.

          Well, I will give a little to those who were taught wrong, but only as long as they haven't been told the correct way to do it.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Sloppy is sloppy. It shows that someone doesn't care about the quality of their output.

            Well, I will give a little to those who were taught wrong, but only as long as they haven't been told the correct way to do it.

            And never looked it up. I've been exposed to good writing many times in my life, one bad teacher would not have been enough to cause a problem.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              If you're a casual writer, why would you look it up (and frankly, where would you look it up?)?

              Now AJ's not claiming to be a casual writer, but unless someone brought it up, like this thread, why would you go looking for something you don't know is a problem?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                You should run into it in style guides. I've been seeing it over and over again all through elementary school, high school, college, etc. And it seems to even come up in IT forums 😉

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  You should run into it in style guides. I've been seeing it over and over again all through elementary school, high school, college, etc. And it seems to even come up in IT forums 😉

                  I've got college manuals and professors, high school teachers, and plenty of other people who have never once made so much as even a comment about single spaced papers.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
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                    I would need to check my the style guide from when I went back for my MS, but my memory tells me that it was not mentioned.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      "Printed words need the relief of a surrounding blank as much as figures in a landscape need background or contrast, perspective or atmosphere." - The Practice of Typography

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        "White space is needed to make printing comprehensible." - The Practice of Typography

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Single spacing was adopted to lower the cost of printing, not because it was more readable.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch said:

                            I would need to check my the style guide from when I went back for my MS, but my memory tells me that it was not mentioned.

                            This, writing at the grad level I don't think I encountered this issue. I'd heard about the "controversy" before but never really thought much on it.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              I double spaced everything (English spaced) everything all the way from K through grad school and professional writing and have never had single spacing suggested or mentioned.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                It is now the MLA standard recommendation.

                                http://www.mla.org/style/style_faq/mlastyle_spaces

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/747/01/

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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                                    And the wikipedia article is well cited.

                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      In summary, I do not care how you think it should be or how you were taught.

                                      It is not how the language is typed, and has not been for years.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        It looks like the style guides have given sway to popular fashion. Double spacing has been the style guide choice for centuries. It would be nice if style guides listed why they changed their own policies.

                                        This article gives a good viewpoint from the Economist.

                                        http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2013/10/style

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          It looks like the style guides have given sway to popular fashion. Double spacing has been the style guide choice for centuries. It would be nice if style guides listed why they changed their own policies.

                                          They "gave way" decades ago. No matter what you think, or how you were taught.

                                          Language is a living thing. It is always changing, written or verbal, it does not matter. There are no rules for how a language changes. It is changed by the users of the language as they use it.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            Cool I learned a few things today.

                                            OK learned or Learnt?

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