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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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      @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

      Not sure if this matters, but the target will be used by Windows Servers... would that make a difference here?

      No, Windows just isn't up to the job. That the backups will talk over SMB is not really a factor, Synology is Linux, too. All enterprise storage options are Linux based (or BSD based) and use Samba as their interface layer. So it's really the only possibility.

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        Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid/limits?:

        @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

        Not sure if this matters, but the target will be used by Windows Servers... would that make a difference here?

        No, Windows just isn't up to the job. That the backups will talk over SMB is not really a factor, Synology is Linux, too. All enterprise storage options are Linux based (or BSD based) and use Samba as their interface layer. So it's really the only possibility.

        Thats fine. I meant for the clients backing up to this target. They are Windows.

        I'll take a look at SuperMicro and Huawei drives, and see what PCM say if I cant figure it out.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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          @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

          I'll take a look at SuperMicro and Huawei drives,

          Chassis.

          Only WD makes drives for you.

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            Jimmy9008
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            Yep, i forgot the ',' lol

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              This is one of your few possible drives...

              https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/data-center-drives/ultrastar-dc-hc500-series/data-sheet-ultrastar-dc-hc530.pdf

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                Jimmy9008
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                Something like: SC847E16-R1K28LPB on SuperMicro?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  This is another drive that you could consider. 15TB optimized for sequential workloads.

                  https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/data-center-drives/ultrastar-dc-hc600-series/data-sheet-ultrastar-dc-hc620.pdf

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                    @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                    SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                    Yes, that's definitely an option.

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                      Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid/limits?:

                      @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                      SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                      Yes, that's definitely an option.

                      Ok, i'll look in to that.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        I still very much doubt that you'll be able to get that much hardware for your price point.

                        Even with Supermicro being a great contender here, your disks cost is going to be sky high.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by DustinB3403

                          Drives alone for this are going to cost you (assuming amazon prices - not VAT) $11,279.76.

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                            Jimmy9008 @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid/limits?:

                            Drives alone for this are going to cost you (assuming amazon prices - not VAT) $6,325.

                            Just had a look now:

                            24 * DC HC530 inc VAT = £12,503.53
                            1 x SC847E16-R1K28LPB inc VAT = £1,655.99

                            Total: £14,159.52

                            Just need to configure it in house.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @Jimmy9008
                              last edited by DustinB3403

                              @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                              SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                              CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

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                                Jimmy9008 @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                I assumed that is already within the device?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                                  @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                  @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                  SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                  CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                  I assumed that is already within the device?

                                  You would have specs if so. What you linked looked only like the chassis.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @Jimmy9008
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                                    @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                    @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                    SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                    CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                    I assumed that is already within the device?

                                    Chassis is just the chassis. . . not the guts.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
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                                      Those are the MB's that the chassis can fit.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                                        @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                        @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                        SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                        CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                        I assumed that is already within the device?

                                        Chassis implies none of those things. If you look, the chassis lists the kinds of motherboards it supports. It doesn't have a mobo, let alone CPU, RAM, etc.

                                        https://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                        SuperMicro you always buy through a dealer. Looking at SM's website is just about useless. Talk to PCM UK and have them assemble something for you, trying to do it yourself will be a nightmare and that's never how SM expects it to work.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          You could easily be adding an additional 2-6 K on top of what you estimated for just the chassis and drives.

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                                            Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                            @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                            @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                            SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                            CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                            I assumed that is already within the device?

                                            Chassis implies none of those things. If you look, the chassis lists the kinds of motherboards it supports. It doesn't have a mobo, let alone CPU, RAM, etc.

                                            https://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                            SuperMicro you always buy through a dealer. Looking at SM's website is just about useless. Talk to PCM UK and have them assemble something for you, trying to do it yourself will be a nightmare and that's never how SM expects it to work.

                                            Would that PCM work also include OS setup/setting up the file system? So we just rack it in the office and turn it on...

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