Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?
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I still very much doubt that you'll be able to get that much hardware for your price point.
Even with Supermicro being a great contender here, your disks cost is going to be sky high.
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Drives alone for this are going to cost you (assuming amazon prices - not VAT) $11,279.76.
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@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid/limits?:
Drives alone for this are going to cost you (assuming amazon prices - not VAT) $6,325.
Just had a look now:
24 * DC HC530 inc VAT = £12,503.53
1 x SC847E16-R1K28LPB inc VAT = £1,655.99Total: £14,159.52
Just need to configure it in house.
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@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
SC847E16-R1K28LPB
CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?
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@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
SC847E16-R1K28LPB
CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?
I assumed that is already within the device?
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@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
SC847E16-R1K28LPB
CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?
I assumed that is already within the device?
You would have specs if so. What you linked looked only like the chassis.
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@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
SC847E16-R1K28LPB
CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?
I assumed that is already within the device?
Chassis is just the chassis. . . not the guts.
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Those are the MB's that the chassis can fit.
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@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
SC847E16-R1K28LPB
CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?
I assumed that is already within the device?
Chassis implies none of those things. If you look, the chassis lists the kinds of motherboards it supports. It doesn't have a mobo, let alone CPU, RAM, etc.
https://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E16-R1K28LPB
SuperMicro you always buy through a dealer. Looking at SM's website is just about useless. Talk to PCM UK and have them assemble something for you, trying to do it yourself will be a nightmare and that's never how SM expects it to work.
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You could easily be adding an additional 2-6 K on top of what you estimated for just the chassis and drives.
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@scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
SC847E16-R1K28LPB
CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?
I assumed that is already within the device?
Chassis implies none of those things. If you look, the chassis lists the kinds of motherboards it supports. It doesn't have a mobo, let alone CPU, RAM, etc.
https://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E16-R1K28LPB
SuperMicro you always buy through a dealer. Looking at SM's website is just about useless. Talk to PCM UK and have them assemble something for you, trying to do it yourself will be a nightmare and that's never how SM expects it to work.
Would that PCM work also include OS setup/setting up the file system? So we just rack it in the office and turn it on...
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@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
You could easily be adding an additional 2-6 K on top of what you estimated for just the chassis and drives.
Makes sense, ill keep looking. This we could make a saving my getting smaller drives, say 8TB, but more of them?
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@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
You could easily be adding an additional 2-6 K on top of what you estimated for just the chassis and drives.
Makes sense, ill keep looking. This we could make a saving my getting smaller drives, say 8TB, but more of them?
And where would you fit these lower capacity drives that take more bays?
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@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
You could easily be adding an additional 2-6 K on top of what you estimated for just the chassis and drives.
Makes sense, ill keep looking. This we could make a saving my getting smaller drives, say 8TB, but more of them?
Maybe, but a lot more of them. What capacity do you actually need?
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@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
You could easily be adding an additional 2-6 K on top of what you estimated for just the chassis and drives.
Makes sense, ill keep looking. This we could make a saving my getting smaller drives, say 8TB, but more of them?
And where would you fit these lower capacity drives that take more bays?
That chassis does 36.
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@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
SC847E16-R1K28LPB
CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?
I assumed that is already within the device?
Chassis implies none of those things. If you look, the chassis lists the kinds of motherboards it supports. It doesn't have a mobo, let alone CPU, RAM, etc.
https://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E16-R1K28LPB
SuperMicro you always buy through a dealer. Looking at SM's website is just about useless. Talk to PCM UK and have them assemble something for you, trying to do it yourself will be a nightmare and that's never how SM expects it to work.
Would that PCM work also include OS setup/setting up the file system? So we just rack it in the office and turn it on...
It's very plausible you could have the dealer do this for you, but I'd reload it myself.
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@scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
You could easily be adding an additional 2-6 K on top of what you estimated for just the chassis and drives.
Makes sense, ill keep looking. This we could make a saving my getting smaller drives, say 8TB, but more of them?
And where would you fit these lower capacity drives that take more bays?
That chassis does 36.
Except that every board listed for that chassis is discontinued. . . (I checked)
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@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
SC847E16-R1K28LPB
CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?
I assumed that is already within the device?
Chassis implies none of those things. If you look, the chassis lists the kinds of motherboards it supports. It doesn't have a mobo, let alone CPU, RAM, etc.
https://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E16-R1K28LPB
SuperMicro you always buy through a dealer. Looking at SM's website is just about useless. Talk to PCM UK and have them assemble something for you, trying to do it yourself will be a nightmare and that's never how SM expects it to work.
Would that PCM work also include OS setup/setting up the file system? So we just rack it in the office and turn it on...
It's very plausible you could have the dealer do this for you, but I'd reload it myself.
What sort of hardware support do we get? I assume just manufacturer warranty?
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@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
SC847E16-R1K28LPB
CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?
I assumed that is already within the device?
Chassis implies none of those things. If you look, the chassis lists the kinds of motherboards it supports. It doesn't have a mobo, let alone CPU, RAM, etc.
https://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E16-R1K28LPB
SuperMicro you always buy through a dealer. Looking at SM's website is just about useless. Talk to PCM UK and have them assemble something for you, trying to do it yourself will be a nightmare and that's never how SM expects it to work.
Would that PCM work also include OS setup/setting up the file system? So we just rack it in the office and turn it on...
It's very plausible you could have the dealer do this for you, but I'd reload it myself.
What sort of hardware support do we get? I assume just manufacturer warranty?
Usually 12 months manufacturer (SM) and you would get additional coverage from whoever you bought it from at cost.
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@Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:
Would that PCM work also include OS setup/setting up the file system? So we just rack it in the office and turn it on..
That's what your IT department is for, always, no exceptions. Nothing that comes configured by a vendor can ever be used in production, because it means you can't support it and don't know what the setup is.
If you don't have the IT people in house to manage your systems, then you need an ITSP / MSP, it's that simple. If you can't set a system up using in house resources, you can't run and maintain it. So you need to solve the issue of how to run the system before you buy it. Remember, most of the cost and complexity of any system is in ongoing operations, not in purchase and setup.
