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    Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      10 drives in the array, believed to be RAID 10. 2 drives in RAID 1 as well.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by scottalanmiller

        One drive in the large array is flashing orange, so looks like one drive has failed.

        All other drives are green.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Bringing up Node 1 again now. With only one drive failed in the DAS unit, any RAID (other than RAID 0) should have survived.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Okay, that process brought things up. Not the cluster, but the disks are back. We can see the Quorum plus other disks now.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              Trying to bring up Node 2 now, but I'm not hopeful on that.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Node 1 is healthy, Node 2 is gone. Cluster won't come up, but the workloads did. So they are good for now.

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                • DanpD
                  Danp
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                  Do they have a plan to replace this outdated tech with something current?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Danp
                    last edited by

                    @Danp said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                    Do they have a plan to replace this outdated tech with something current?

                    Yes, there was a six month plan in place already, but it just got moved to something like a six day plan.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                      @Danp said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                      Do they have a plan to replace this outdated tech with something current?

                      Yes, there was a six month plan in place already, but it just got moved to something like a six day plan.

                      Love it when that happens!!

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                        @FATeknollogee said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                        @Danp said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                        Do they have a plan to replace this outdated tech with something current?

                        Yes, there was a six month plan in place already, but it just got moved to something like a six day plan.

                        Love it when that happens!!

                        The system is still f***** because they have to replace it today and they have to worry about good backups today.

                        2003 is ancient

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce
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                          I'm guessing the thing hasn't been maintained at all which would have brought this about sooner but in a controlled manner.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                            @FATeknollogee said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                            @Danp said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                            Do they have a plan to replace this outdated tech with something current?

                            Yes, there was a six month plan in place already, but it just got moved to something like a six day plan.

                            Love it when that happens!!

                            The system is still f***** because they have to replace it today and they have to worry about good backups today.

                            2003 is ancient

                            Backups are running today.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @Obsolesce said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                              I'm guessing the thing hasn't been maintained at all which would have brought this about sooner but in a controlled manner.

                              Pretty much. We weren't even told about it. Not that we needed to be, we consult for this customer, we aren't their outsourced IT.

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                              • nadnerBN
                                nadnerB
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                                well, that's a Fuster Cluck and a half

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1
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                                  And that's why we call them IPOD. (Inverted Pyramid of Doom). Welcome them to the club, hopefully doing it correctly this time!

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                                    And that's why we call them IPOD. (Inverted Pyramid of Doom). Welcome them to the club, hopefully doing it correctly this time!

                                    Yeah, we mentioned that on the call. But it predated the people who were there now (it even predated their CAREERS!) It's such an old system. When a system is 16 years old, it's actually not that common to find people who were actively working in IT at that time. If you assume most people don't start IT until the age that they would have finished college, that's 23. Add sixteen career years, that's 39. Add a year for planning of the project before it was purchased, and you are age 40. So only people likely to be 40+, who started in IT right away and didn't move from another career, could be reasonably expected to have been in the field at the time that the system was decided on! That's nuts.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      This really is a good example of why the IPOD is so bad. The "never fails" DAS failed, but at least it didn't lose the data, it just caused a large panic outage.

                                      But there are three servers, instead of one. And two of them failed. One completely (node 2), and one partially (the DAS.) Had only Node 1 been purchased, they would have had no outage, no failures, and made it sixteen years at about one quarter the cost, and never seen an outage at all.

                                      The "just buy one server" here would have kicked the crap out of the reliability of the IPOD! No redundancy on this system was ever used, but because it had that redundancy, it caused things to fail that should not have.

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                                      • DonahueD
                                        Donahue
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                                        @scottalanmiller, I read the first 10 posts or so like it was your ships log after you shipwrecked on a deserted island, and you were preserving the record for whoever found your body.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Donahue
                                          last edited by

                                          @Donahue said in Windows Server 2003 Cluster Dead:

                                          @scottalanmiller, I read the first 10 posts or so like it was your ships log after you shipwrecked on a deserted island, and you were preserving the record for whoever found your body.

                                          LMAO.

                                          Captain's log January 5, 2019.... still no fresh water and the server won't boot. We lost James this morning, dehydration and sun exposure. Also, the SAN died.

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                                          • jmooreJ
                                            jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller lol

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