On-Premises soft PBX
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
I was looking at the Sangoma IP phones after my curiosity was piqued for FreePBX.
I don't like them. I got a s500 for attending a seminar in person. It works fine at a basic level, but the reliance on the phone apps for everything just makes doing things slow.
So that makes it not worth the premium IMO. The ability to freely use the commercial EPM is not worth it.
EPM is not that expensive anyway.
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@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
I was looking at the Sangoma IP phones after my curiosity was piqued for FreePBX.
I don't like them. I got a s500 for attending a seminar in person. It works fine at a basic level, but the reliance on the phone apps for everything just makes doing things slow.
So that makes it not worth the premium IMO. The ability to freely use the commercial EPM is not worth it.
EPM is not that expensive anyway.
My dad uses one (he is retired from NTG) and it works fine, I use it when I take over his office. But I prefer my Yealinks for sure.
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@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
I was looking at the Sangoma IP phones after my curiosity was piqued for FreePBX.
I don't like them. I got a s500 for attending a seminar in person. It works fine at a basic level, but the reliance on the phone apps for everything just makes doing things slow.
So that makes it not worth the premium IMO. The ability to freely use the commercial EPM is not worth it.
EPM is not that expensive anyway.
My dad uses one (he is retired from NTG) and it works fine, I use it when I take over his office. But I prefer my Yealinks for sure.
Yeah, it works quite well just for phone calls.
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Which yealink model(s) do you guys like?
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
Which yealink model(s) do you guys like?
Personally for low cost phones, the T42S is really nice. Nothing special, very cheap, but gives a solid air of quality. Looks good on the desk, works great. This is the majority of what we support (I literally think over 50% of all phones we support are these.)
I have lots of T19 E2 out there, they are super bare bones, but they still look and feel nice. The T48S is the bomb, though, with the crazy touch screen. I was using one two weeks go, so jealous that I don't have one of my own.
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The T2xx series is fine, but really looks and feels pretty cheap. (That's what I use in my won office, ho hum.) The T4xx series really steps it up and is the line I'd spend my own money on if I was buying today.
We have loads and loads of T2xx and T3xx in our office because of the era that we were investing in phones.
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We currently have Shoretel/Mitel Connect, on-prem. We have IP230G, IP480G and IP485G phones. Do you know if they are compatible with freepbx?
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We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.
We paid about $70 USD ea for them just buying online, not through a VAR.
We use 3CX and 3CX have a windows application that integrates with supported phones. So you can dial from windows and your phone will place the call. It's basically like remote control of the phone.
There are a bunch of other functions too, the software can for instance be used as a softphone itself. So your computer will work as a phone. You need a headset to hook up to your computer though for it to be practical. But it actually works very well.
There is a web interface as well to the PBX. Too many functions to list here but it can do some of the things that the windows application can.
I'm just writing this because it may not be apparent to someone who is not used to voip that you don't actually need physical phones. If you had a call center or something you would just use computers and headsets.
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@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
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@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
We've got customers who still have 25 year old cabling and live on 100Mb/s believe it or not. We have been deploying 100Mb/s passthrough phones for them.
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@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
We've got customers who still have 25 year old cabling and live on 100Mb/s believe it or not. We have been deploying 100Mb/s passthrough phones for them.
I didn't say there wasn't a case. If we make the switch - I'm going to be seeing if I can get a good enough signal on CAT 3 cabling for some phones to prevent me having to run new cable - in those cases, 100 Mb/s phones would be fine.
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@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
We've got customers who still have 25 year old cabling and live on 100Mb/s believe it or not. We have been deploying 100Mb/s passthrough phones for them.
I didn't say there wasn't a case. If we make the switch - I'm going to be seeing if I can get a good enough signal on CAT 3 cabling for some phones to prevent me having to run new cable - in those cases, 100 Mb/s phones would be fine.
There is absolutely no reason that you cannot do fast ethernet on cat three. That is in the design spec
That said I would recommend sticking with the same model phone or at least the same physical form factor add a minimum just to make things simpler to manage.
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@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
We've got customers who still have 25 year old cabling and live on 100Mb/s believe it or not. We have been deploying 100Mb/s passthrough phones for them.
I didn't say there wasn't a case. If we make the switch - I'm going to be seeing if I can get a good enough signal on CAT 3 cabling for some phones to prevent me having to run new cable - in those cases, 100 Mb/s phones would be fine.
There is absolutely no reason that you cannot do fast ethernet on cat three. That is in the design spec
That said I would recommend sticking with the same model phone or at least the same physical form factor add a minimum just to make things simpler to manage.
That makes sense, sticking with the same physical form factor. Even though I know we could get along with those super cheap phones in most of these places I'm talking about.
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@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
We've got customers who still have 25 year old cabling and live on 100Mb/s believe it or not. We have been deploying 100Mb/s passthrough phones for them.
I didn't say there wasn't a case. If we make the switch - I'm going to be seeing if I can get a good enough signal on CAT 3 cabling for some phones to prevent me having to run new cable - in those cases, 100 Mb/s phones would be fine.
There is absolutely no reason that you cannot do fast ethernet on cat three. That is in the design spec
That said I would recommend sticking with the same model phone or at least the same physical form factor add a minimum just to make things simpler to manage.
That makes sense, sticking with the same physical form factor. Even though I know we could get along with those super cheap phones in most of these places I'm talking about.
With Yealink, that can be done with the T41S and T42S. Same form factor.
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And the T42S are still quite cheap. Not $70 cheap, but not bad.
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@scottalanmiller @PhlipElder we're using http://www.iristel.com/business/products/sip-trunking for our Canadian sites. I don't look after the telecom stuff but from what I understand they're closer to a 1st tier provider and actually resell to many of the other sip providers
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@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
And the T42S are still quite cheap. Not $70 cheap, but not bad.
They should be very simple to find for about $90. I’m sure in bulk from some kind of VAR you can get them cheaper.
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@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
That would be my case as well. It is very rare that we have a phone without a PC passed through the phone.
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@notverypunny said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller @PhlipElder we're using http://www.iristel.com/business/products/sip-trunking for our Canadian sites. I don't look after the telecom stuff but from what I understand they're closer to a 1st tier provider and actually resell to many of the other sip providers
Have not used them. Seem pretty good on your end?
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
That would be my case as well. It is very rare that we have a phone without a PC passed through the phone.
This is what I do at home, too.
I even have one phone that passes through to a Shield console, lol.
