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    • DonahueD
      Donahue @black3dynamite
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      @black3dynamite said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

      home warranty

      haha, thats funny...warranty

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

        @black3dynamite said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

        Is it necessary to use plenum cables for homes?

        Plenum should always be used for in-wall runs.

        why? It's designed for plenum spaces, not basic in-wall runs.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

          @travisdh1 said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

          @black3dynamite said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

          Is it necessary to use plenum cables for homes?

          Plenum should always be used for in-wall runs.

          why? It's designed for plenum spaces, not basic in-wall runs.

          Correct.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

            @black3dynamite said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

            Is it necessary to use plenum cables for homes?

            Legally, not likely as it's your home. As a business it's required as a fire protection mechanism (in at least NY). So for this case, likely not. Would it be a decent recommendation, yeah. . sure but it cost more.

            Does NY require Plenum rated even if you are not running it in plenum spaces?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

              @travisdh1 said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

              @black3dynamite said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

              Is it necessary to use plenum cables for homes?

              Plenum should always be used for in-wall runs. I'd check you're local building codes to be sure.

              Most home construction laws don't require fire retardant cabling, especially for cases like this.

              That is not what plenum is.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Donahue
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                @Donahue said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                @black3dynamite said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                home warranty

                haha, thats funny...warranty

                They are super common in some parts of the country, like Texas. In NY, we'd never heard of it.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                  @DustinB3403 said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                  @travisdh1 said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                  @black3dynamite said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                  Is it necessary to use plenum cables for homes?

                  Plenum should always be used for in-wall runs. I'd check you're local building codes to be sure.

                  Most home construction laws don't require fire retardant cabling, especially for cases like this.

                  That is not what plenum is.

                  Exactly.

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                    bnrstnr @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                    why? It's designed for plenum spaces, not basic in-wall runs.

                    Plenum also satisfies Riser rated, which would be more important for this case if he's traversing floors.

                    EDIT: also, during remodels like this, you never know when you might want to just cut through your duct work... I know I've done it in my house

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @bnrstnr
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                      @bnrstnr said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                      @Dashrender said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                      why? It's designed for plenum spaces, not basic in-wall runs.

                      Plenum also satisfies Riser rated, which would be more important for this case if he's traversing floors.

                      I'm unfamiliar with that requirement/term.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @bnrstnr
                        last edited by

                        @bnrstnr said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                        EDIT: also, during remodels like this, you never know when you might want to just cut through your duct work... I know I've done it in my house

                        Sure - but that's not what Travis said, and well - the OP wasn't specific.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                          @bnrstnr said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                          @Dashrender said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                          why? It's designed for plenum spaces, not basic in-wall runs.

                          Plenum also satisfies Riser rated, which would be more important for this case if he's traversing floors.

                          I'm unfamiliar with that requirement/term.

                          Doesn't often come up in a home.

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                          • DonahueD
                            Donahue @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                            @Donahue said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                            @black3dynamite said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                            home warranty

                            haha, thats funny...warranty

                            They are super common in some parts of the country, like Texas. In NY, we'd never heard of it.

                            I've heard of builder's warranties on new construction. But it's like pulling teeth to get them to actually honor them, at least around here.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Donahue
                              last edited by

                              @Donahue said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                              @scottalanmiller said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                              @Donahue said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                              @black3dynamite said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                              home warranty

                              haha, thats funny...warranty

                              They are super common in some parts of the country, like Texas. In NY, we'd never heard of it.

                              I've heard of builder's warranties on new construction. But it's like pulling teeth to get them to actually honor them, at least around here.

                              Never get a builder's warranty. No, this is a home warranty. They are everywhere here. People swear by them. It's bizarre that something so "basic" is so ubiquitous in one region of the country, and unheard of in another. But that's how it is. I've owned homes all over and only in Texas has anyone ever mentioned such a thing, and here it is just assumed that you will have one.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Obviously, they are crap. Like any warranty, you have to pay more than it is worth on average because you have to pay for the overhead of the warranty system, any corruption, take on any risks of non-payment, and pay for their profits. There is no real way for them to save you money. Once in a while, someone gets lucky and is the beneficiary of the warranty, at the expensive of nine other people who horribly over paid.

                                Having had one, I won't do it again. They sound great, but logic shows why it will fail. You spend loads of money, to them fight the system, and they always push for the cheapest, shoddiest repairs. And they only cover some stuff, not enough so you always pay anyway, but lack the ability to negotiate good prices.

                                And of course, if you fix anything yourself or have friends do it, you get screwed, too.

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                                • jmooreJ
                                  jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller Sounds like our car/health insurance system too

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                                    1337
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                                    Of course you should use Cat6.

                                    • How many years will you live there?
                                    • How much does it cost to rewire if needed in the future?
                                    • How much does it cost to buy the Cat6 you need?
                                    • How much is that in relation to the total amount of work and money you invested in redoing your basement?

                                    Aren't we talking about 50-100 bucks here?

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                                      @bnrstnr said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                                      @Dashrender said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                                      why? It's designed for plenum spaces, not basic in-wall runs.

                                      Plenum also satisfies Riser rated, which would be more important for this case if he's traversing floors.

                                      I'm unfamiliar with that requirement/term.

                                      It does not apply ina house.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                                        @bnrstnr said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                                        EDIT: also, during remodels like this, you never know when you might want to just cut through your duct work... I know I've done it in my house

                                        Sure - but that's not what Travis said, and well - the OP wasn't specific.

                                        I believe any wiring in residential duct work is against code, not certain on that one.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                                          @Donahue said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                                          @Donahue said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                                          @black3dynamite said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                                          home warranty

                                          haha, thats funny...warranty

                                          They are super common in some parts of the country, like Texas. In NY, we'd never heard of it.

                                          I've heard of builder's warranties on new construction. But it's like pulling teeth to get them to actually honor them, at least around here.

                                          Never get a builder's warranty. No, this is a home warranty. They are everywhere here. People swear by them. It's bizarre that something so "basic" is so ubiquitous in one region of the country, and unheard of in another. But that's how it is. I've owned homes all over and only in Texas has anyone ever mentioned such a thing, and here it is just assumed that you will have one.

                                          I have one on my house. I've always heard about them around Illinois and MIssouri.

                                          I never purchased one until the current house.

                                          I will likely drop it as soon as I replace the furnace.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in House wiring - CAT and Speaker wire:

                                            Obviously, they are crap. Like any warranty, you have to pay more than it is worth on average because you have to pay for the overhead of the warranty system, any corruption, take on any risks of non-payment, and pay for their profits. There is no real way for them to save you money. Once in a while, someone gets lucky and is the beneficiary of the warranty, at the expensive of nine other people who horribly over paid.

                                            Having had one, I won't do it again. They sound great, but logic shows why it will fail. You spend loads of money, to them fight the system, and they always push for the cheapest, shoddiest repairs. And they only cover some stuff, not enough so you always pay anyway, but lack the ability to negotiate good prices.

                                            And of course, if you fix anything yourself or have friends do it, you get screwed, too.

                                            I've had zero issues with my home warranty.

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