Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World
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@storageninja said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller there isn’t a software based raid option on ESXi unless you pass it to a VM or use vSAN. The cheapest raid controllers supported are the BOSS modules M.2 mirroring things.
I think that's what our VxRails are coming with.
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@scottalanmiller said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@wrcombs said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@dave247 said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller What about RAID 1 on the motherboard? Yeah it's "fake", but it's still effectively mirroring the drives. I use that on my home pc and it hasn't failed me.
Thats what we use .
Is it? I thought you just determined that you didn't have FakeRAID, but had to use Windows RAID instead (which is the recommended choice anyway.)
I just know that we mirror Drives, WE use RAID 1 : Using
CLTR+F
during the boot. Is it possible we are using FakeRAID? Completely! like we have all came to the conclusion of: This place is diseased with horrible practices. Why we dont use Windows RAID- but instead use FastTrak? I have no Idea. -
@stacksofplates said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller there isn’t a software based raid option on ESXi unless you pass it to a VM or use vSAN. The cheapest raid controllers supported are the BOSS modules M.2 mirroring things.
I think that's what our VxRails are coming with.
14Gen VxRAIL and ReadyNodes use's BOSS for the boot modules. VxRAIL keeps the factory re-install image I think on the SD Cards in case you need to factory nuke a node.
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@wrcombs said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@wrcombs said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@dave247 said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller What about RAID 1 on the motherboard? Yeah it's "fake", but it's still effectively mirroring the drives. I use that on my home pc and it hasn't failed me.
Thats what we use .
Is it? I thought you just determined that you didn't have FakeRAID, but had to use Windows RAID instead (which is the recommended choice anyway.)
I just know that we mirror Drives, WE use RAID 1 : Using
CLTR+F
during the boot. Is it possible we are using FakeRAID? Completely! like we have all came to the conclusion of: This place is diseased with horrible practices. Why we dont use Windows RAID- but instead use FastTrak? I have no Idea.Oh, if you are doing CTRL-F during boot to configure RAID, pretty likely it is FakeRAID. But the one in your other thread didn't support that. That's a unique one, though?
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@storageninja said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller there isn’t a software based raid option on ESXi unless you pass it to a VM or use vSAN. The cheapest raid controllers supported are the BOSS modules M.2 mirroring things.
There used to be the S100 or something. I've seen VMware deployed (some time ago) with Software RAID from a third party.
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@scottalanmiller said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@wrcombs said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@wrcombs said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@dave247 said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller What about RAID 1 on the motherboard? Yeah it's "fake", but it's still effectively mirroring the drives. I use that on my home pc and it hasn't failed me.
Thats what we use .
Is it? I thought you just determined that you didn't have FakeRAID, but had to use Windows RAID instead (which is the recommended choice anyway.)
I just know that we mirror Drives, WE use RAID 1 : Using
CLTR+F
during the boot. Is it possible we are using FakeRAID? Completely! like we have all came to the conclusion of: This place is diseased with horrible practices. Why we dont use Windows RAID- but instead use FastTrak? I have no Idea.Oh, if you are doing CTRL-F during boot to configure RAID, pretty likely it is FakeRAID. But the one in your other thread didn't support that. That's a unique one, though?
Unique for sure, Because we us FakeRAID: but we could set it up to use Software RAID..
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@wrcombs said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@wrcombs said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@wrcombs said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@dave247 said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller What about RAID 1 on the motherboard? Yeah it's "fake", but it's still effectively mirroring the drives. I use that on my home pc and it hasn't failed me.
Thats what we use .
Is it? I thought you just determined that you didn't have FakeRAID, but had to use Windows RAID instead (which is the recommended choice anyway.)
I just know that we mirror Drives, WE use RAID 1 : Using
CLTR+F
during the boot. Is it possible we are using FakeRAID? Completely! like we have all came to the conclusion of: This place is diseased with horrible practices. Why we dont use Windows RAID- but instead use FastTrak? I have no Idea.Oh, if you are doing CTRL-F during boot to configure RAID, pretty likely it is FakeRAID. But the one in your other thread didn't support that. That's a unique one, though?
Unique for sure, Because we us FakeRAID: but we could set it up to use Software RAID..
Right, you have options, but chose the weird one, it would seem. And the one that can't be used uniformly.
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@scottalanmiller said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@wrcombs said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@wrcombs said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@wrcombs said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@dave247 said in Discovering FakeRAID in the Real World:
@scottalanmiller What about RAID 1 on the motherboard? Yeah it's "fake", but it's still effectively mirroring the drives. I use that on my home pc and it hasn't failed me.
Thats what we use .
Is it? I thought you just determined that you didn't have FakeRAID, but had to use Windows RAID instead (which is the recommended choice anyway.)
I just know that we mirror Drives, WE use RAID 1 : Using
CLTR+F
during the boot. Is it possible we are using FakeRAID? Completely! like we have all came to the conclusion of: This place is diseased with horrible practices. Why we dont use Windows RAID- but instead use FastTrak? I have no Idea.Oh, if you are doing CTRL-F during boot to configure RAID, pretty likely it is FakeRAID. But the one in your other thread didn't support that. That's a unique one, though?
Unique for sure, Because we us FakeRAID: but we could set it up to use Software RAID..
Right, you have options, but chose the weird one, it would seem. And the one that can't be used uniformly.
Sadly this falls under : Being Plagued by horrible practices . . .