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      vhinzsanchez @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Windows file server query:

      Seems that something like Netwrix must have something simpler to use. But I can see that if he is used to just using the Windows tools that learning something else seems silly. If all he's doing is auditing stuff, while odd, it seems fine.

      Not that odd, not normal for a boss to be seeing those small things but he is the one who is very particular to security of our files...I've learned to understand them and adjust.

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        scottalanmiller @vhinzsanchez
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        @vhinzsanchez said in Windows file server query:

        @scottalanmiller said in Windows file server query:

        Seems that something like Netwrix must have something simpler to use. But I can see that if he is used to just using the Windows tools that learning something else seems silly. If all he's doing is auditing stuff, while odd, it seems fine.

        Not that odd, not normal for a boss to be seeing those small things but he is the one who is very particular to security of our files...I've learned to understand them and adjust.

        If he really wants security, maybe moving away from SMB shares would be ideal 🙂 Not that SMB can't be secured, but it is harder to lock down than more modern approaches.

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          vhinzsanchez @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Windows file server query:

          If he really wants security, maybe moving away from SMB shares would be ideal Not that SMB can't be secured, but it is harder to lock down than more modern approaches.

          Its the way things are...I approached my direct boss and opened up DMS but she said she knows DMS and it is just an unnecessary cost/process (something as not just worth it) as we already have a working solution. If she sees that it may save atleast 35% of the process it will be worth investing into, but on her experience (she worked with IBM for quite some time and, as I can tell, she has been up that corporate ladder but am unsure how far--gaining experience, before leaving to take on our company). That's how we got in touch with VMWare, she directly contacted one of the regional heads and to schedule a meeting/presentation.

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            scottalanmiller @vhinzsanchez
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            @vhinzsanchez said in Windows file server query:

            That's how we got in touch with VMWare, she directly contacted one of the regional heads and to schedule a meeting/presentation.

            She didn't learn much from IBM. 🙂 We definitely didn't turn to sales people when we needed to determine how to do things. That's totally the opposite of what IBM was like when I was there. We knew the tech, and only used what was needed.

            Maybe that's why she's not there any longer.

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              vhinzsanchez
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              I think the original questions has been answered. Thanks a lot guys, but if you still have any ideas or would like to chime in, pls. do so.

              Will still continue to use:

              • Roaming Profiles
              • Folder Redirection

              More research if suitable:

              • Offline Files - mostly suitable as we have been doing it -- proceed with caution?
              • Access-Based Enumeration - good feature, have not heard of anything negative...yet
              • Data Deduplication - Good to have, no problems here but others have horror stories -- test and proceed with caution.

              good to have but on a single file server, doesn't make any sense

              • DFS-Namespace
              • DFS-Replication

              Do not do it! Not enterprise ready or is inferior to VMWare VSAN:

              • Storage Spaces
              • Storage Spaces Direct
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                scottalanmiller @vhinzsanchez
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                @vhinzsanchez said in Windows file server query:

                I think the original questions has been answered. Thanks a lot guys, but if you still have any ideas or would like to chime in, pls. do so.

                Will still continue to use:

                • Roaming Profiles
                • Folder Redirection

                Those are generally fine.

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                  vhinzsanchez @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Windows file server query:

                  She didn't learn much from IBM. We definitely didn't turn to sales people when we needed to determine how to do things. That's totally the opposite of what IBM was like when I was there. We knew the tech, and only used what was needed.
                  Maybe that's why she's not there any longer.

                  She's more on Financial dept rather than Operational from what I heard.

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                    scottalanmiller @vhinzsanchez
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                    @vhinzsanchez said in Windows file server query:

                    More research if suitable:

                    • Offline Files - mostly suitable as we have been doing it -- proceed with caution?

                    yes, often overkill and can be flaky.

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                      scottalanmiller @vhinzsanchez
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                      @vhinzsanchez said in Windows file server query:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows file server query:

                      She didn't learn much from IBM. We definitely didn't turn to sales people when we needed to determine how to do things. That's totally the opposite of what IBM was like when I was there. We knew the tech, and only used what was needed.
                      Maybe that's why she's not there any longer.

                      She's more on Financial dept rather than Operational from what I heard.

                      That actually makes it dramatically worse, not better. Finance, more than anyone, should know how business financial relationships work and never make a mistake of that nature. Pure IT people are often clueless as to how human interactions work and are sometimes excused for missing out on the dynamics.

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                        scottalanmiller @vhinzsanchez
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                        @vhinzsanchez said in Windows file server query:

                        • Data Deduplication - Good to have, no problems here but others have horror stories -- test and proceed with caution.

                        I'd word that differently. more like...

                        Possibly good to have, but not normally. Generally isn't terrible, but rarely worth it.

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                          scottalanmiller @vhinzsanchez
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                          @vhinzsanchez said in Windows file server query:

                          good to have but on a single file server, doesn't make any sense

                          • DFS-Namespace
                          • DFS-Replication

                          Definitely worthless in your scenario. but "good to have" isn't true. They have their place but it's not that common and they bring problems. Like dedupe, unless you have a specific need, you should be avoiding. They are there to fix problems, if you don't have those problems, you don't want them.

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                            vhinzsanchez @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Windows file server query:

                            I'd word that differently. more like...
                            Possibly good to have, but not normally. Generally isn't terrible, but rarely worth it.

                            Thanks, will keep that in mind.

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                              scottalanmiller @vhinzsanchez
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                              @vhinzsanchez said in Windows file server query:

                              Do not do it! Not enterprise ready or is inferior to VMWare VSAN:

                              • Storage Spaces
                              • Storage Spaces Direct

                              This is true, but it's also important for broader decision making to keep in mind that they are also inferior to free solutions, as well.

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                                scottalanmiller
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                                Lots of these techs exist to fill specific gaps or solve specific problems. Few are "bad" on their own.

                                But think of a bandaid, a real one. They aren't "bad" but you wouldn't want to wear one for fun, that would be silly. You only wear one when your finger is cut.

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                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Unless you get a designer bandaid with puppy designs on it, then you can wear it anytime.

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                                    vhinzsanchez @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Windows file server query:

                                    designer bandaid with puppy designs on it, then you can wear it anytime.

                                    :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:

                                    Thanks everyone! I know now on what I should do to my file server.

                                    Great day ahead!

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                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Good luck.

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                                        dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows file server query:

                                        @vhinzsanchez said in Windows file server query:

                                        • Data Deduplication - Good to have, no problems here but others have horror stories -- test and proceed with caution.

                                        I'd word that differently. more like...

                                        Possibly good to have, but not normally. Generally isn't terrible, but rarely worth it.

                                        Depends on what you need. If you're expecting 10:1 compression, yeah, not worth it. But if you need to squeeze every ounce of space out of your storage, then it can be. I've seen between 20 and 30% Dedupe on two different systems. Saved us 600 gigs on one side and ~900 GB on another.

                                        Definitely still a proceed with caution.

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