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@hobbit666 said in Goto Linux Server OS:
So what's everyone's "Default" Distro they install onto a blank VM when setting up new servers?
Fedora for sure. Never an LTS unless there is no choice because of application support.
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@black3dynamite said in Goto Linux Server OS:
If the install guides or system requirements are well documented, I’ll usually try Fedora first.
This is one of my issues. I always thought Fedora was a Desktop Distro not really for Servers, and i believe it's based on CentOS? so why not just use that?
No, Fedora is NOT a desktop distro, nor is it based on CentOS. Fedora is the "master" from which CentOS and RHEL are taken. CentOS is just "old" Fedora.
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@hobbit666 said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@black3dynamite said in Goto Linux Server OS:
If the install guides or system requirements are well documented, I’ll usually try Fedora first.
This is one of my issues. I always thought Fedora was a Desktop Distro not really for Servers, and i believe it's based on CentOS? so why not just use that?
CentOS is an LTS release... so bad unless you absolutely need it. LTS is a bad thing, and the current CPU Meltdown problems are a perfect example of why.
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Downloaded Fedora to try
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RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
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@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
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@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
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@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
I was wondering the same thing as I was looking to spin up a Zimbra server for my lab.
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@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
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@bnrstnr said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
I was wondering the same thing as I was looking to spin up a Zimbra server for my lab.
Use CentOS 7. It's our last CentOS workload here.
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@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
Oh... wow... a FOSS product would puke if you weren't using paid OS support? That's just overall very weird.
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@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
If Zimbra product release notes were to state "we are NEVER going to not require CentOS", and you wanted to use Fedora Server... what email system would you switch to? Not necessarily just for the masses.. just what you personally like when it comes to supported features like calendars, native support for signatures and control over originating format when replying/forwarding (plain text/html) without using 3rd party plugins, etc.
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@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
If Zimbra product release notes were to state "we are NEVER going to not require CentOS", and you wanted to use Fedora Server... what email system would you switch to? Not necessarily just for the masses.. just what you personally like when it comes to supported features like calendars, native support for signatures and control over originating format when replying/forwarding (plain text/html) without using 3rd party plugins, etc.
Don't know any enterprise email systems running on Fedora. Maybe Mailbear supports it?
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@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
If Zimbra product release notes were to state "we are NEVER going to not require CentOS", and you wanted to use Fedora Server... what email system would you switch to? Not necessarily just for the masses.. just what you personally like when it comes to supported features like calendars, native support for signatures and control over originating format when replying/forwarding (plain text/html) without using 3rd party plugins, etc.
Don't know any enterprise email systems running on Fedora.
Ah, that answers that question. Everything is CentOS, RHEL, IBM, etc?
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@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
If Zimbra product release notes were to state "we are NEVER going to not require CentOS", and you wanted to use Fedora Server... what email system would you switch to? Not necessarily just for the masses.. just what you personally like when it comes to supported features like calendars, native support for signatures and control over originating format when replying/forwarding (plain text/html) without using 3rd party plugins, etc.
Don't know any enterprise email systems running on Fedora.
Ah, that answers that question. Everything is CentOS, RHEL, IBM, etc?
Pretty much. Axigen is the same.... CentOS, RHEL, Leap.
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@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Zimbra does not require CentOS, you can also use Ubuntu which others might not like.
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@dbeato said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Zimbra does not require CentOS, you can also use Ubuntu which others might not like.
We mean in the context of the RPM distos. It only supports Ubuntu LTS and not current which is arguably not even a form of support since Ubuntu’s own support path can be to force you to current meaning Zimbra isn’t actually supported in that ecosystem.
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@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@dbeato said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Zimbra does not require CentOS, you can also use Ubuntu which others might not like.
We mean in the context of the RPM distos. It only supports Ubuntu LTS and not current which is arguably not even a form of support since Ubuntu’s own support path can be to force you to current meaning Zimbra isn’t actually supported in that ecosystem.
Yeah, Zimbra supports Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but yeah we are almost on 18.04
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@dbeato said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@dbeato said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Zimbra does not require CentOS, you can also use Ubuntu which others might not like.
We mean in the context of the RPM distos. It only supports Ubuntu LTS and not current which is arguably not even a form of support since Ubuntu’s own support path can be to force you to current meaning Zimbra isn’t actually supported in that ecosystem.
Yeah, Zimbra supports Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but yeah we are almost on 18.04
Yeah. So far worse than only supporting CentOS 7 in the RPM world. At least RHEL 7 offers full support from the vendor, not partial.
