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    • anthonyhA
      anthonyh @Dashrender
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      @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

      @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

      @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

      @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

      I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.

      Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.

      I would either be going ERPro PoE -> ASA5510 or ERPro PoE -> ERPro8.

      Likely going to do the latter.

      Right, my question is - why? If you go the ASA, I get it, you're changing vendors (i.e. new interface), but if going to the ERPro8, why? do you need the extra ports? If not, there's nothing to gain by moving to the ERPro8 over the ERPro POE.

      The biggest advantage is the ERPro-8 is rack mountable. Also, the ERPro-8 does have a little more horsepower behind it but whether or not it'd be noticable in my environment is another story. I suspect if I wanted to do any sort of VPN tunneling it may fair a little better, but that's just a guess. So, mostly because it's rack mountable.

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      • dave247D
        dave247 @anthonyh
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        @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

        @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

        @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

        @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

        @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

        I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.

        Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.

        I would either be going ERPro PoE -> ASA5510 or ERPro PoE -> ERPro8.

        Likely going to do the latter.

        Right, my question is - why? If you go the ASA, I get it, you're changing vendors (i.e. new interface), but if going to the ERPro8, why? do you need the extra ports? If not, there's nothing to gain by moving to the ERPro8 over the ERPro POE.

        The biggest advantage is the ERPro8 is rack mountable. Also, the ERPro8 does have a little more horsepower behind it but whether or not it'd be noticable in my environment is another story. I suspect if I wanted to do any sort of VPN tunneling it may fair a little better, but that's just a guess. So, mostly because it's rack mountable.

        Just buy a rackable tray for the ASA

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @anthonyh
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          @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

          @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

          @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

          @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

          @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

          I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.

          Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.

          I would either be going ERPro PoE -> ASA5510 or ERPro PoE -> ERPro8.

          Likely going to do the latter.

          Right, my question is - why? If you go the ASA, I get it, you're changing vendors (i.e. new interface), but if going to the ERPro8, why? do you need the extra ports? If not, there's nothing to gain by moving to the ERPro8 over the ERPro POE.

          The biggest advantage is the ERPro8 is rack mountable. Also, the ERPro8 does have a little more horsepower behind it but whether or not it'd be noticable in my environment is another story. I suspect if I wanted to do any sort of VPN tunneling it may fair a little better, but that's just a guess. So, mostly because it's rack mountable.

          Single VPN would likely not matter at all. JB has shown that if you turn on QoS or other features that an ER-L can slow down (line speed can drop from 1 Gb/s to something like 650 Mb/s - as JB for real numbers). So the ERPro8 might matter here if you do these things, and you have a pipe greater than 650 Mb/s - which you said you'd top out around 100/30, so not likely to affect you.

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          • anthonyhA
            anthonyh @dave247
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            @dave247 said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

            @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

            @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

            @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

            @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

            @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

            I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.

            Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.

            I would either be going ERPro PoE -> ASA5510 or ERPro PoE -> ERPro8.

            Likely going to do the latter.

            Right, my question is - why? If you go the ASA, I get it, you're changing vendors (i.e. new interface), but if going to the ERPro8, why? do you need the extra ports? If not, there's nothing to gain by moving to the ERPro8 over the ERPro POE.

            The biggest advantage is the ERPro8 is rack mountable. Also, the ERPro8 does have a little more horsepower behind it but whether or not it'd be noticable in my environment is another story. I suspect if I wanted to do any sort of VPN tunneling it may fair a little better, but that's just a guess. So, mostly because it's rack mountable.

            Just buy a rackable tray for the ASA

            You're probably thinking of the ASA5505. The ASA5510 is already rack mountable. It's a 1U beast.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @dave247
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              @dave247 said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

              @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

              @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

              @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

              @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

              @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

              I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.

              Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.

              I would either be going ERPro PoE -> ASA5510 or ERPro PoE -> ERPro8.

              Likely going to do the latter.

              Right, my question is - why? If you go the ASA, I get it, you're changing vendors (i.e. new interface), but if going to the ERPro8, why? do you need the extra ports? If not, there's nothing to gain by moving to the ERPro8 over the ERPro POE.

              The biggest advantage is the ERPro8 is rack mountable. Also, the ERPro8 does have a little more horsepower behind it but whether or not it'd be noticable in my environment is another story. I suspect if I wanted to do any sort of VPN tunneling it may fair a little better, but that's just a guess. So, mostly because it's rack mountable.

              Just buy a rackable tray for the ASA

              Same goes for the ERPro POE.

              But you already have the ERPro 8, assuming you can't return it and spend the money on something else - ok fine, rack it up.

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              • anthonyhA
                anthonyh @Dashrender
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                @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.

                Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.

                I would either be going ERPro PoE -> ASA5510 or ERPro PoE -> ERPro8.

                Likely going to do the latter.

                Right, my question is - why? If you go the ASA, I get it, you're changing vendors (i.e. new interface), but if going to the ERPro8, why? do you need the extra ports? If not, there's nothing to gain by moving to the ERPro8 over the ERPro POE.

                The biggest advantage is the ERPro8 is rack mountable. Also, the ERPro8 does have a little more horsepower behind it but whether or not it'd be noticable in my environment is another story. I suspect if I wanted to do any sort of VPN tunneling it may fair a little better, but that's just a guess. So, mostly because it's rack mountable.

                Single VPN would likely not matter at all. JB has shown that if you turn on QoS or other features that an ER-L can slow down (line speed can drop from 1 Gb/s to something like 650 Mb/s - as JB for real numbers). So the ERPro8 might matter here if you do these things, and you have a pipe greater than 650 Mb/s - which you said you'd top out around 100/30, so not likely to affect you.

                If I mentioned anywhere that I'd top out around 100/30, that's not correct (maybe you're inadvertently mixing this thread with another?). In terms of Internet service, I would likely top out around 300/10 (most my cable provider will do...and I may take them up on it just because). However, I may want to play with different firewall zones and could see wanting to throw traffic between zones at wirespeed (or as fast as the configuration will allow).

                Aside from all that, I like that 1) it's a nice rack-mountable form factor, and 2) I'm not spending any money to get it.

                I suppose I should've mentioned that I would be inheriting these devices. No out-of-pocket money on my part (other than the gas to get them home and recurring power bill to keep them on). 😄

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @anthonyh
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                  @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                  @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                  @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                  @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                  @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                  @dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                  @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                  I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.

                  Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.

                  I would either be going ERPro PoE -> ASA5510 or ERPro PoE -> ERPro8.

                  Likely going to do the latter.

                  Right, my question is - why? If you go the ASA, I get it, you're changing vendors (i.e. new interface), but if going to the ERPro8, why? do you need the extra ports? If not, there's nothing to gain by moving to the ERPro8 over the ERPro POE.

                  The biggest advantage is the ERPro8 is rack mountable. Also, the ERPro8 does have a little more horsepower behind it but whether or not it'd be noticable in my environment is another story. I suspect if I wanted to do any sort of VPN tunneling it may fair a little better, but that's just a guess. So, mostly because it's rack mountable.

                  Single VPN would likely not matter at all. JB has shown that if you turn on QoS or other features that an ER-L can slow down (line speed can drop from 1 Gb/s to something like 650 Mb/s - as JB for real numbers). So the ERPro8 might matter here if you do these things, and you have a pipe greater than 650 Mb/s - which you said you'd top out around 100/30, so not likely to affect you.

                  If I mentioned anywhere that I'd top out around 100/30, that's not correct (maybe you're inadvertently mixing this thread with another?). In terms of Internet service, I would likely top out around 300/10 (most my cable provider will do...and I may take them up on it just because). However, I may want to play with different firewall zones and could see wanting to throw traffic between zones at wirespeed (or as fast as the configuration will allow).

                  Aside from all that, I like that 1) it's a nice rack-mountable form factor, and 2) I'm not spending any money to get it.

                  I suppose I should've mentioned that I would be inheriting these devices. No out-of-pocket money on my part (other than the gas to get them home and recurring power bill to keep them on). 😄

                  If that's the case I'll take the one you don't use :winking_face: .

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
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                    There is no such product as the ERPro PoE

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                    • anthonyhA
                      anthonyh @JaredBusch
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                      @jaredbusch said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                      There is no such product as the ERPro PoE

                      My bad. I've been meaining ERPoe-5.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
                        last edited by JaredBusch

                        There has always been a third party rack mount solution for the ERL and ERPoE form factor.

                        Orinigally designed for the ToughSwitch series
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                        • anthonyhA
                          anthonyh @anthonyh
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                          @anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                          @jaredbusch said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                          There is no such product as the ERPro PoE

                          My bad. I've been meaining ERPoe-5.

                          OK, I think I fixed my blunder everywhere I could.

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                          • anthonyhA
                            anthonyh @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:

                            There has always been a third party rack mount solution for the ERL and ERPoE form factor.

                            Orinigally designed for the ToughSwitch series
                            0_1513030474471_C1CB41C5-9F90-4C71-A1A7-B12039856CD9.png

                            That's pretty cool! I had no idea such an animal exists.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              The new ER4 will have an UBNT made rack mount. No idea if is is compatible with the ERL physically.

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