Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro-8
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@mike-davis said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
Easy decision for me. I have no need to learn Cisco stuff because I don't have any clients with a Cisco router. What is your client base/environment?
Well, I'm not an MSP or work for one, or contractor of any sort, so my one client (my organization) uses Cisco switches and routers across the board (I would change this if it were within my power, but it's a long story), and Fortinet firewalls. Previous to the Fortinets we were using ASAs.
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@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@mike-davis said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
Easy decision for me. I have no need to learn Cisco stuff because I don't have any clients with a Cisco router. What is your client base/environment?
Well, I'm not an MSP or work for one, or contractor of any sort, so my one client (my organization) uses Cisco switches and routers across the board (I would change this if it were within my power, but it's a long story), and Fortinet firewalls. Previous to the Fortinets we were using ASAs.
So that pretty much answers that. Neither applies at all, so use what is good for you
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@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@mike-davis said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
Easy decision for me. I have no need to learn Cisco stuff because I don't have any clients with a Cisco router. What is your client base/environment?
Well, I'm not an MSP or work for one, or contractor of any sort, so my one client (my organization) uses Cisco switches and routers across the board (I would change this if it were within my power, but it's a long story), and Fortinet firewalls. Previous to the Fortinets we were using ASAs.
So that pretty much answers that. Neither applies at all, so use what is good for you
Well, the point of my post was to get the (very appreciated) feedback from y'all.
I want to continually improve my skill set in ways that directly benefts my current employer, but I also don't want to be someone who wears blinders to the various options one has for solutions to things like network gear and whatnot.
I'll probably go with the ERPro-8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPoe-5 in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
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If you already have experience with Cisco gear, then give Ubiquiti a run.
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@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I want to continually improve my skill set in ways that directly benefts my current employer, but I also don't want to be someone who wears blinders to the various options one has for solutions to things like network gear and whatnot.
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Well think of it this way... your employer currently uses neither. So learning either for your employer's current needs is moot. One is highly applicable as to something that would be a great choice for your employer in the future; the other is not.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
Because one is the "most applicable to the SMB market" of any product in the category. The other borders on being the least
Thinking SMB, this makes perfect sense. No way in [insert expletive] I would make a SMB sell their soul for Cisco gear when other gear would be just as good (or better) at a fraction of the cost.
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@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
Because one is the "most applicable to the SMB market" of any product in the category. The other borders on being the least
Thinking SMB, this makes perfect sense. No way in [insert expletive] I would make a SMB sell their soul for Cisco gear when other gear would be just as good (or better) at a fraction of the cost.
Does getting bigger than SMB suddenly make ASA make sense when it does less?
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My point there being... Cisco does make gear for the enterprise, but the ASA isn't one of those items.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I want to continually improve my skill set in ways that directly benefts my current employer, but I also don't want to be someone who wears blinders to the various options one has for solutions to things like network gear and whatnot.
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Well think of it this way... your employer currently uses neither. So learning either for your employer's current needs is moot. One is highly applicable as to something that would be a great choice for your employer in the future; the other is not.
Hm, I suppose this is one way to think about it.
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@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I want to continually improve my skill set in ways that directly benefts my current employer, but I also don't want to be someone who wears blinders to the various options one has for solutions to things like network gear and whatnot.
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Well think of it this way... your employer currently uses neither. So learning either for your employer's current needs is moot. One is highly applicable as to something that would be a great choice for your employer in the future; the other is not.
Hm, I suppose this is one way to think about it.
What's the other way? LOL
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@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
Because one is the "most applicable to the SMB market" of any product in the category. The other borders on being the least
Thinking SMB, this makes perfect sense. No way in [insert expletive] I would make a SMB sell their soul for Cisco gear when other gear would be just as good (or better) at a fraction of the cost.
Does getting bigger than SMB suddenly make ASA make sense when it does less?
I would have to compare hardware specs and throughput capabilities to really make a determination on that. If they can both process the same number of packets per second (or at least meet the requirements of the organization), then of course not.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I want to continually improve my skill set in ways that directly benefts my current employer, but I also don't want to be someone who wears blinders to the various options one has for solutions to things like network gear and whatnot.
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Well think of it this way... your employer currently uses neither. So learning either for your employer's current needs is moot. One is highly applicable as to something that would be a great choice for your employer in the future; the other is not.
Hm, I suppose this is one way to think about it.
What's the other way? LOL
Some sort of random number generator (coin flip)?
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@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
Because one is the "most applicable to the SMB market" of any product in the category. The other borders on being the least
Thinking SMB, this makes perfect sense. No way in [insert expletive] I would make a SMB sell their soul for Cisco gear when other gear would be just as good (or better) at a fraction of the cost.
Does getting bigger than SMB suddenly make ASA make sense when it does less?
I would have to compare hardware specs and throughput capabilities to really make a determination on that. If they can both process the same number of packets per second (or at least meet the requirements of the organization), then of course not.
Oh no, it's not even close. The Ubiquiti's claim to fame is its ability to destroy the Cisco in performance. That's specifically why the ASA is seen as such a joke, it's SO slow - without being $20 which is what it should be considering the performance.
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We can the numbers recently, and it took a $4,500 ASA to match the ER-L for $95. And there is the ER-4 about to release and other higher models of the Ubiquiti's that are still in the <$500 range, each way faster than the one that crushes Cisco.
it's not that Ubiquiti is the answer to every environment, it's really just that the ASA is so bad.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
Because one is the "most applicable to the SMB market" of any product in the category. The other borders on being the least
Thinking SMB, this makes perfect sense. No way in [insert expletive] I would make a SMB sell their soul for Cisco gear when other gear would be just as good (or better) at a fraction of the cost.
Does getting bigger than SMB suddenly make ASA make sense when it does less?
I would have to compare hardware specs and throughput capabilities to really make a determination on that. If they can both process the same number of packets per second (or at least meet the requirements of the organization), then of course not.
Oh no, it's not even close. The Ubiquiti's claim to fame is its ability to destroy the Cisco in performance. That's specifically why the ASA is seen as such a joke, it's SO slow - without being $20 which is what it should be considering the performance.
Oh? Did someone do some sort of benchmark comparison or something? If so, I'd love to read/see it.
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@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
Because one is the "most applicable to the SMB market" of any product in the category. The other borders on being the least
Thinking SMB, this makes perfect sense. No way in [insert expletive] I would make a SMB sell their soul for Cisco gear when other gear would be just as good (or better) at a fraction of the cost.
Does getting bigger than SMB suddenly make ASA make sense when it does less?
I would have to compare hardware specs and throughput capabilities to really make a determination on that. If they can both process the same number of packets per second (or at least meet the requirements of the organization), then of course not.
Oh no, it's not even close. The Ubiquiti's claim to fame is its ability to destroy the Cisco in performance. That's specifically why the ASA is seen as such a joke, it's SO slow - without being $20 which is what it should be considering the performance.
Oh? Did someone do some sort of benchmark comparison or something? If so, I'd love to read/see it.
Found your thread, actually: https://mangolassi.it/topic/14570/comparing-ubiquiti-edgerouter-and-cisco-asa-pps-performance-and-cost
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@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
Because one is the "most applicable to the SMB market" of any product in the category. The other borders on being the least
Thinking SMB, this makes perfect sense. No way in [insert expletive] I would make a SMB sell their soul for Cisco gear when other gear would be just as good (or better) at a fraction of the cost.
Does getting bigger than SMB suddenly make ASA make sense when it does less?
I would have to compare hardware specs and throughput capabilities to really make a determination on that. If they can both process the same number of packets per second (or at least meet the requirements of the organization), then of course not.
Oh no, it's not even close. The Ubiquiti's claim to fame is its ability to destroy the Cisco in performance. That's specifically why the ASA is seen as such a joke, it's SO slow - without being $20 which is what it should be considering the performance.
Oh? Did someone do some sort of benchmark comparison or something? If so, I'd love to read/see it.
You can just look at their numbers. But this has been Ubiquiti's own selling point since day one - directly comparing themselves to Cisco and Meraki to show how they weren't even serious contenders. That's always been the UBNT example - that Cisco can't even begin to compete.
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I haven't played with Ubiquiti too much, though I do have a cheap Edge Router ER-X sitting in my office drawer. When I set it up, I was super impressed by the UI and apparent tool set.
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@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.
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@dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.
I would either be going ERPoe-5 -> ASA5510 or ERPoe-5 -> ERPro-8.
Likely going to do the latter.
