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    • anthonyhA
      anthonyh @Dashrender
      last edited by anthonyh

      @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

      Any value to trying to use DNS/DHCP for Windows domains on something other than Windows? It drops the need for Windows CALs for DNS/DHCP use.

      If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

      If the environment is utilizing Active Directory I think sticking with with MS DNS is best (I'm sure there are ways around it if you replicate the various DNS records AD creates, but IMO it may be more headache than it's worth). However, you can use other DHCP solutions. We do not use MS DHCP and have no issues.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

        If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

        DDNS? Like for external use?

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates
          last edited by stacksofplates

          This is overkill but it’s me trying to run my house like a real system. I have dual CentOS BIND DNS servers and a CentOS DHCP server. The DHCP server is running on KVM, DNS servers are on OpenStack. Ansible updates one DNS server, reboots it, then moves to the other and does the same. It does that every night. DNS and DHCP are great practice for automation. All of my stuff (home and work) uses reservations so I just add a server to my dictionary and it’s created by Ansible in both DNS and DHCP at the same time.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

            @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

            If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

            DDNS? Like for external use?

            DDNS yes, but for internal. Windows DNS is dynamic DNS, as machines come and go from the network, they join and DNS, and update IP if changed.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

              @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

              @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

              If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

              DDNS? Like for external use?

              DDNS yes, but for internal. Windows DNS is dynamic DNS, as machines come and go from the network, they join and DNS, and update IP if changed.

              Oh, that's not Dynanic DNS as I know the term. That's just DHCP based automation.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

                DDNS? Like for external use?

                DDNS yes, but for internal. Windows DNS is dynamic DNS, as machines come and go from the network, they join and DNS, and update IP if changed.

                Oh, that's not Dynanic DNS as I know the term. That's just DHCP based automation.

                It can use DHCP, but doesn't have to, at least as I understand it.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                  @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                  @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                  If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

                  DDNS? Like for external use?

                  DDNS yes, but for internal. Windows DNS is dynamic DNS, as machines come and go from the network, they join and DNS, and update IP if changed.

                  Oh, that's not Dynanic DNS as I know the term. That's just DHCP based automation.

                  It can use DHCP, but doesn't have to, at least as I understand it.

                  Without DHCP, where would the info come from?

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by Dashrender

                    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771255(v=ws.11).aspx

                    Domain Name System (DNS) client computers can use dynamic update to register and dynamically update their resource records with a DNS server whenever changes occur. This reduces the need for manual administration of zone records, especially for clients that frequently move or change locations and use Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) to obtain an IP address.

                    The DNS Client service and the DNS Server service support the use of dynamic updates, as described in Request for Comments (RFC) 2136, "Dynamic Updates in the Domain Name System."

                    By default, computers that are statically configured for TCP/IP attempt to dynamically register host (A) resource records and pointer (PTR) resource records for IP addresses that are configured and used by their installed network connections. By default, all computers register records based on their fully qualified domain name (FQDN).

                    I know this is old, but I'm not aware of this changing.

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                      For DNS and DHCP, I'd either replace the Spectrum router entirely with an EdgeRouter Lite (~$95 from Amazon) and do it all there to keep things nice and simple, or run a Linux VM, probably Fedora or CentOS, to do this. Keep it simple. Everything does DHCP and DHS, there is no upside to having something special for that.

                      VyOS is does a awesome job has a router.
                      There’s even a nice howto setup too.
                      https://wiki.vyos.net/wiki/User_Guide

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                        @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                        @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                        @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                        If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

                        DDNS? Like for external use?

                        DDNS yes, but for internal. Windows DNS is dynamic DNS, as machines come and go from the network, they join and DNS, and update IP if changed.

                        Oh, that's not Dynanic DNS as I know the term. That's just DHCP based automation.

                        It can use DHCP, but doesn't have to, at least as I understand it.

                        Without DHCP, where would the info come from?
                        Windows also has the option to only allow secure updates. To allow all devices to register you will have to choose nonsecure dynamic updates.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @black3dynamite
                          last edited by JaredBusch

                          @black3dynamite said in Home Network Setup:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                          For DNS and DHCP, I'd either replace the Spectrum router entirely with an EdgeRouter Lite (~$95 from Amazon) and do it all there to keep things nice and simple, or run a Linux VM, probably Fedora or CentOS, to do this. Keep it simple. Everything does DHCP and DHS, there is no upside to having something special for that.

                          VyOS is does a awesome job has a router.
                          There’s even a nice howto setup too.
                          https://wiki.vyos.net/wiki/User_Guide

                          I believe that @scottalanmiller setup a VyOS system on a box in front of the Scale system that NTG has at Colocation America. And then it subsequently blew up. Cannot recall him ever posting a root cause.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @jaredbusch said in Home Network Setup:

                            @black3dynamite said in Home Network Setup:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                            For DNS and DHCP, I'd either replace the Spectrum router entirely with an EdgeRouter Lite (~$95 from Amazon) and do it all there to keep things nice and simple, or run a Linux VM, probably Fedora or CentOS, to do this. Keep it simple. Everything does DHCP and DHS, there is no upside to having something special for that.

                            VyOS is does a awesome job has a router.
                            There’s even a nice howto setup too.
                            https://wiki.vyos.net/wiki/User_Guide

                            I believe that @scottalanmiller setup a VyOS system on a box in front of the Scale system that NTG has at Colocation America. And then it subsequently blew up. Cannot recall him ever posting a root cause.

                            Oh that's easy, root cause is the drives died 🙂

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                              @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                              If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

                              DDNS? Like for external use?

                              So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

                                DDNS? Like for external use?

                                So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?

                                Umm WTF? Windows does not self register DDNS. Where did that come from?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                  @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                  If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

                                  DDNS? Like for external use?

                                  So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?

                                  Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                    @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                    @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                    If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

                                    DDNS? Like for external use?

                                    So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?

                                    Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?

                                    to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                      @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                      @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                      If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

                                      DDNS? Like for external use?

                                      So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?

                                      Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?

                                      to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)

                                      That's not a goal, that's a solution. What's the REASON you want any of that?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                        @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                        @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                        @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                        If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

                                        DDNS? Like for external use?

                                        So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?

                                        Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?

                                        to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)

                                        That's not a goal, that's a solution. What's the REASON you want any of that?

                                        Seriously? why would I not want to have to buy Windows CALs? really?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Here is the alternate.... on a non-Windows network, I don't want DNS listing random dynamic guests. That's the simplest solution. Windows does something I have no desire to have. Given that I don't know what purpose it serves, it's hard to figure out what you are actually looking to accomplish.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                            @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                            @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:

                                            @dashrender said in Home Network Setup:

                                            If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?

                                            DDNS? Like for external use?

                                            So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?

                                            Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?

                                            to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)

                                            That's not a goal, that's a solution. What's the REASON you want any of that?

                                            Seriously? why would I not want to have to buy Windows CALs? really?

                                            Perhaps it's a non issue - I have user based CALs, and assuming I only allow users on my network, they would already be covered. So I perhaps don't have a real need for this??

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