Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM
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@dustinb3403 said
At the time you were evaluating XS, you were using Hyper-V and while it worked, it lacked a lot of what you needed.
Was evaluating hypervisors and decided to give XS a try over Hyper-V.
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
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@dustinb3403 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
I would like to give KVM a better try, but I haven't had the time to dig into it.
That and I really want a SPOG like XO.
WebVirtMgr can handle multiple servers and such.
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@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dustinb3403 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
I would like to give KVM a better try, but I haven't had the time to dig into it.
That and I really want a SPOG like XO.
WebVirtMgr can handle multiple servers and such.
But how is it setup, as a VM like XO, is it built into Fedora distro's when you install it with the ISO?
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@dustinb3403 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dustinb3403 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
I would like to give KVM a better try, but I haven't had the time to dig into it.
That and I really want a SPOG like XO.
WebVirtMgr can handle multiple servers and such.
But how is it setup, as a VM like XO, is it built into Fedora distro's when you install it with the ISO?
Yeah, you can run it as it's own VM, or you can install it directly on the KVM server. (Mine is directly on the KVM server at the moment).
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
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@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yes. However, SSH and such is restricted to my home IP and my ZT network.
Edit: Obviously, I have iptables rules allowing things like NextCloud to function.
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@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
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@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
Close. Physical box hosted in somebody else's closet.
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
Close. Physical box hosted in somebody else's closet.
And they wouldn't let you put a ER-L in front of the server?
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
Close. Physical box hosted in somebody else's closet.
Is it Wholesaleinternet?
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@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
Close. Physical box hosted in somebody else's closet.
And they wouldn't let you put a ER-L in front of the server?
It's hosted with KimSufi (OVH), so, no. They wouldn't. Their job is to image the box and put it online and give me necessary details.
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@travisdh1 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
Close. Physical box hosted in somebody else's closet.
Is it Wholesaleinternet?
KimSufi (OVH subsidiary). I looked at them, they have some good deals.
I've got a dedicated box w/16GB RAM and 2TB storage with 1 public IP. All I need. (Backups are sent to my house once a month at the moment).
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
Close. Physical box hosted in somebody else's closet.
Can't you just sit an ERL on top of it then?
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
Close. Physical box hosted in somebody else's closet.
And they wouldn't let you put a ER-L in front of the server?
It's hosted with KimSufi (OVH), so, no. They wouldn't. Their job is to image the box and put it online and give me necessary details.
Oh, well stop using them
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@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
Close. Physical box hosted in somebody else's closet.
And they wouldn't let you put a ER-L in front of the server?
It's hosted with KimSufi (OVH), so, no. They wouldn't. Their job is to image the box and put it online and give me necessary details.
Oh, well stop using them
Why? They work so well, they're cheap, and I have my data backed up somewhere else.
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@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
Close. Physical box hosted in somebody else's closet.
And they wouldn't let you put a ER-L in front of the server?
It's hosted with KimSufi (OVH), so, no. They wouldn't. Their job is to image the box and put it online and give me necessary details.
Oh, well stop using them
I understand it can be a price issue - i.e. you're paying for 1 U today, and with a ER-L you'll have to buy 2 or more (they might make you buy a shelf, assuming you can get a 1 U shelf..
and now you're at the 2U price instead of the 1 U price. -
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Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
Close. Physical box hosted in somebody else's closet.
And they wouldn't let you put a ER-L in front of the server?
It's hosted with KimSufi (OVH), so, no. They wouldn't. Their job is to image the box and put it online and give me necessary details.
Oh, well stop using them
Why? They work so well, they're cheap, and I have my data backed up somewhere else.
I feel like you just described them not working well, then say that they work well
What do they cost for that?
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@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
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Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
Close. Physical box hosted in somebody else's closet.
And they wouldn't let you put a ER-L in front of the server?
It's hosted with KimSufi (OVH), so, no. They wouldn't. Their job is to image the box and put it online and give me necessary details.
Oh, well stop using them
Why? They work so well, they're cheap, and I have my data backed up somewhere else.
I feel like you just described them not working well, then say that they work well
What do they cost for that?
You assume I want something else in front of my box connected to the internet -- I don't. My idea of working well is can I access it when I want, and does it work when I click the Go button.
It's $25 a month 8-Core Intel / 16GB RAM / 2TB SATA / 100 mbit unmetered internet / 1 public IPv4.
