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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @RojoLoco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      Backblaze Q3 drive stats:

      https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q3-2019/

      The answer is unchanged. Don't buy Seagate.

      With the number of failed Seagate drives that B2 is going through, you'd think that it would be cost prohibitive to continue to purchase them.

      This is reading into it a bit, but I would guess Seagate at least honors their warranties. . . .

      An average of roughly 12 Seagate drives failing per day, the time involved has got to add up.

      Well, think about the cost of a DC tech and the time involved in a drive swap. If you have the drives on hand, and the tech is already in the DC, and you can do it "anytime today".... grabbing 12 drives in a basket, walking around and popping them all in is 10-30 minutes, tops. Maybe even just 5 minutes if they hurry. It's so easy. And the most junior guy can do it, on the night shift. So likely just using already idle time.

      I bet that if the drives themselves are cheap at all, or the warranties are good, that the cost might be hardly anything.

      I didn't think they used hotswap? I thought they had to pull their home made servers out to swap drives, possibly requiring to down the whole machine (though unlikely - they just have to likely offline the drive before removing it, then scanning and adding the new one to the array.

      None of the pictures of their boxes appeared to be hotswapable.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender You've seen pictures of their servers/datacenter?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @Dashrender You've seen pictures of their servers/datacenter?

          Everyone has. They post pics and specs of their servers everywhere. They are famous for it.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @RojoLoco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            Backblaze Q3 drive stats:

            https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q3-2019/

            The answer is unchanged. Don't buy Seagate.

            With the number of failed Seagate drives that B2 is going through, you'd think that it would be cost prohibitive to continue to purchase them.

            This is reading into it a bit, but I would guess Seagate at least honors their warranties. . . .

            An average of roughly 12 Seagate drives failing per day, the time involved has got to add up.

            Well, think about the cost of a DC tech and the time involved in a drive swap. If you have the drives on hand, and the tech is already in the DC, and you can do it "anytime today".... grabbing 12 drives in a basket, walking around and popping them all in is 10-30 minutes, tops. Maybe even just 5 minutes if they hurry. It's so easy. And the most junior guy can do it, on the night shift. So likely just using already idle time.

            I bet that if the drives themselves are cheap at all, or the warranties are good, that the cost might be hardly anything.

            I didn't think they used hotswap? I thought they had to pull their home made servers out to swap drives, possibly requiring to down the whole machine (though unlikely - they just have to likely offline the drive before removing it, then scanning and adding the new one to the array.

            None of the pictures of their boxes appeared to be hotswapable.

            I believe that the newer models are. But even if not, downing a server, swapping a disk, and powering on is fast and easy.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @RojoLoco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              Backblaze Q3 drive stats:

              https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q3-2019/

              The answer is unchanged. Don't buy Seagate.

              With the number of failed Seagate drives that B2 is going through, you'd think that it would be cost prohibitive to continue to purchase them.

              This is reading into it a bit, but I would guess Seagate at least honors their warranties. . . .

              An average of roughly 12 Seagate drives failing per day, the time involved has got to add up.

              Well, think about the cost of a DC tech and the time involved in a drive swap. If you have the drives on hand, and the tech is already in the DC, and you can do it "anytime today".... grabbing 12 drives in a basket, walking around and popping them all in is 10-30 minutes, tops. Maybe even just 5 minutes if they hurry. It's so easy. And the most junior guy can do it, on the night shift. So likely just using already idle time.

              I bet that if the drives themselves are cheap at all, or the warranties are good, that the cost might be hardly anything.

              I didn't think they used hotswap? I thought they had to pull their home made servers out to swap drives, possibly requiring to down the whole machine (though unlikely - they just have to likely offline the drive before removing it, then scanning and adding the new one to the array.

              None of the pictures of their boxes appeared to be hotswapable.

              I believe that the newer models are. But even if not, downing a server, swapping a disk, and powering on is fast and easy.

              It's still likely 5+ mins per machine though. I mean I suppose could be under 3, but seems unlikely.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @RojoLoco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                Backblaze Q3 drive stats:

                https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q3-2019/

                The answer is unchanged. Don't buy Seagate.

                With the number of failed Seagate drives that B2 is going through, you'd think that it would be cost prohibitive to continue to purchase them.

                This is reading into it a bit, but I would guess Seagate at least honors their warranties. . . .

                An average of roughly 12 Seagate drives failing per day, the time involved has got to add up.

                Well, think about the cost of a DC tech and the time involved in a drive swap. If you have the drives on hand, and the tech is already in the DC, and you can do it "anytime today".... grabbing 12 drives in a basket, walking around and popping them all in is 10-30 minutes, tops. Maybe even just 5 minutes if they hurry. It's so easy. And the most junior guy can do it, on the night shift. So likely just using already idle time.

                I bet that if the drives themselves are cheap at all, or the warranties are good, that the cost might be hardly anything.

                I didn't think they used hotswap? I thought they had to pull their home made servers out to swap drives, possibly requiring to down the whole machine (though unlikely - they just have to likely offline the drive before removing it, then scanning and adding the new one to the array.

                None of the pictures of their boxes appeared to be hotswapable.

                I believe that the newer models are. But even if not, downing a server, swapping a disk, and powering on is fast and easy.

                It's still likely 5+ mins per machine though. I mean I suppose could be under 3, but seems unlikely.

                Sure, but that's likely free. The DC tech has to be there 24x7 (a tech, not THE tech.) Generally DC techs have loads and loads of idle time.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  There is also the possibility that they don't replace drives. Given how RAIN works, they don't need to. They might just let them die and spin up more.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    There is also the possibility that they don't replace drives. Given how RAIN works, they don't need to. They might just let them die and spin up more.

                    Their blog posts have made it clear that they do replace failed drives. Your way makes more sense at their scale. Also makes me wonder if it's a limitation in the back end software they use.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                      last edited by

                      @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      There is also the possibility that they don't replace drives. Given how RAIN works, they don't need to. They might just let them die and spin up more.

                      Their blog posts have made it clear that they do replace failed drives. Your way makes more sense at their scale. Also makes me wonder if it's a limitation in the back end software they use.

                      They could replace them in bulk perhaps. Not replacing a single drive on a node, but only when four or more have failed or something like that.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        There is also the possibility that they don't replace drives. Given how RAIN works, they don't need to. They might just let them die and spin up more.

                        Their blog posts have made it clear that they do replace failed drives. Your way makes more sense at their scale. Also makes me wonder if it's a limitation in the back end software they use.

                        They could replace them in bulk perhaps. Not replacing a single drive on a node, but only when four or more have failed or something like that.

                        I don't remember the detail they went into on it, just that they've posted that they do replace drives when they go bad. I think they might replace all failed drives daily, but it's been quite a while since I read that article so easily could be mistaken.

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                        • mlnewsM
                          mlnews
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                          A notorious Iranian hacking crew is targeting industrial control systems

                          Iran’s APT33 may be exploring cyberattacks on critical infrastructure.
                          Iranian hackers have carried out some of the most disruptive acts of digital sabotage of the last decade, wiping entire computer networks in waves of cyberattacks across the Middle East and occasionally even the US. But now one of Iran's most active hacker groups appears to have shifted focus. Rather than just standard IT networks, they're targeting the physical control systems used in electric utilities, manufacturing, and oil refineries. At the CyberwarCon conference in Arlington, Virginia, on Thursday, Microsoft security researcher Ned Moran plans to present new findings from the company's threat intelligence group that show a shift in the activity of the Iranian hacker group APT33, also known by the names Holmium, Refined Kitten, or Elfin. Microsoft has watched the group carry out so-called password-spraying attacks over the past year that try just a few common passwords across user accounts at tens of thousands of organizations. That's generally considered a crude and indiscriminate form of hacking. But over the last two months, Microsoft says APT33 has significantly narrowed its password spraying to around 2,000 organizations per month, while increasing the number of accounts targeted at each of those organizations almost tenfold on average.

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                          • nadnerBN
                            nadnerB
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                            https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/11/google-is-killing-google-cloud-print/

                            Bye to another Google product.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                              last edited by

                              @nadnerB said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/11/google-is-killing-google-cloud-print/

                              Bye to another Google product.

                              Whoa, that seems like a big one.

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                              • nadnerBN
                                nadnerB @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @nadnerB said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/11/google-is-killing-google-cloud-print/

                                Bye to another Google product.

                                Whoa, that seems like a big one.

                                Yep, it’s built into so many printers today. Just goes to show that you can’t rely on Google proucts

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                                • hobbit666H
                                  hobbit666 @nadnerB
                                  last edited by

                                  @nadnerB said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  Yep, it’s built into so many printers today. Just goes to show that you can’t rely on Google proucts

                                  Didn't know it existed lol

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                                    last edited by

                                    @nadnerB said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @nadnerB said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/11/google-is-killing-google-cloud-print/

                                    Bye to another Google product.

                                    Whoa, that seems like a big one.

                                    Yep, it’s built into so many printers today. Just goes to show that you can’t rely on Google proucts

                                    Exactly. This is why I'll never use or recommend G Suite. Can't trust that it's a long term solution.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @nadnerB said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @nadnerB said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/11/google-is-killing-google-cloud-print/

                                      Bye to another Google product.

                                      Whoa, that seems like a big one.

                                      Yep, it’s built into so many printers today. Just goes to show that you can’t rely on Google proucts

                                      Exactly. This is why I'll never use or recommend G Suite. Can't trust that it's a long term solution.

                                      Same here.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        Oh, another thing that is dead is the google message security (spam filter) for $1 / user / month.

                                        I have a couple clients on it that were originally Postini. Google bought that and moved them to this.

                                        But I logged in to add a user and was shown that we were on some grace period that expires on Dec 13 for GSuite.

                                        WTF

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                                          JasGot @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          how do you barely download something?

                                          It's like being almost pregnant!

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                                          • black3dynamiteB
                                            black3dynamite
                                            last edited by black3dynamite

                                            Stable release of Wiki.js 2.0
                                            https://docs.requarks.io/releases

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