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    • KellyK
      Kelly @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @Obsolesce and @scottalanmiller I'm not sure why the two of you seem to be arguing that this is a bad thing.

      Nobody said it's a bad thing...

      Agreed. Just arguing that using HTTP in some cases wasn't irresponsible.

      To what end? There are a lot nits that get picked on this site that cause the discussion to go off the rails for no real purpose that I can perceive. You're not wrong, but did that improve the discussion in any way? I'm not pointing fingers at you in particular, this thread is just one of many where this has happened. I don't know that anything will change, but it bothers me how quality discussions devolve into a back and forth about one point that is tangential to the main focus, and not in a healthy discussion way.

      Not to make this one of those, but I feel like, for me at least, this was productive. Because while it took a bit of back and forth, @stacksofplates exposed the OAUTH "style" risk that is very real and had not been considered. And then the HSTS necessity was brought up. WHich I think was good additional stuff.

      Maybe it's too much back and forth, but isn't that how you test concepts to see what is useful and find nuances that were missed? We could skip all that, but wouldn't the discussion have less if we did?

      If value is derived from the discussion, then I'm all for it. I did not have the impression from the responses that the respondents to @stacksofplates posts were getting anything from them aside from more things to "discuss". This current discussion is not alone in my opinion. But, perhaps I'm being overly sensitive and am reading too much into things.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @Kelly
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        @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        But, perhaps I'm being overly sensitive and am reading too much into things.

        Probably this IMO.

        Valid points were made, additional considerations were brought to light, more understanding and concepts came from it... that's how things progress.

        If only a single aspect of something is talked about, and all else is not considered, well I think that's dangerous and how misconceptions and misinformation can form.

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        • KellyK
          Kelly
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          <opinion>Twitter: We don't shadow ban, but we make it so people's tweets don't show up in feeds if we don't like them</opinion>

          https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/topics/company/2018/Setting-the-record-straight-on-shadow-banning.html

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Kelly
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            @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            <opinion>Twitter: We don't shadow ban, but we make it so people's tweets don't show up in feeds if we don't like them</opinion>

            https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/topics/company/2018/Setting-the-record-straight-on-shadow-banning.html

            Ha

            And... their stock is falling.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Facebook loss this week is a staggering amount of market cap.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Slack has purchased HipChat, from Atlassian.

                HipChat effectively built this form of instant messaging platform, but Slack made the big money from it.

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                • dbeatoD
                  dbeato
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                  Wow, what a HTTPS discussion that I missed lol. Vulnerabilities will be always there no matter what HTTP or HTTPS you have. I always have argued that having a proxy is still not secure end to end for internal traffic (I know, if anything is internal to your network we have more problems).

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce
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                    https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/07/27/dell-xps13-developer-edition-ships-with-ubuntu-18-04-lts-pre-installed

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                      @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/07/27/dell-xps13-developer-edition-ships-with-ubuntu-18-04-lts-pre-installed

                      Not bad.

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato @Obsolesce
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                        @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/07/27/dell-xps13-developer-edition-ships-with-ubuntu-18-04-lts-pre-installed

                        Nice, Dell has always supported Ubuntu. Most of the new computers we buy for VL licensing come with Ubuntu through Dell.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

                            That is truly epic and brilliant.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

                              That is truly epic and brilliant.

                              I thought it was an awesome way to generate a RNG seed.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

                                That is truly epic and brilliant.

                                I thought it was an awesome way to generate a RNG seed.

                                It really is. Completely brilliant. Although it uses a LOT of power. But I bet that looks super cool.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

                                  That is truly epic and brilliant.

                                  I thought it was an awesome way to generate a RNG seed.

                                  It really is. Completely brilliant. Although it uses a LOT of power. But I bet that looks super cool.

                                  Yeah, if they are using the biggest one, that thing has a 100W bulb.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                    @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

                                    That is truly epic and brilliant.

                                    I thought it was an awesome way to generate a RNG seed.

                                    It really is. Completely brilliant. Although it uses a LOT of power. But I bet that looks super cool.

                                    Yeah, if they are using the biggest one, that thing has a 100W bulb.

                                    Yeah, and gets' HOT. Lots of AC needed for that room.

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                                    • jmooreJ
                                      jmoore @JaredBusch
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                                      @jaredbusch That is incredible and great

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                                      • black3dynamiteB
                                        black3dynamite
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                                        https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-software-version-2-4-4-release-highlights.html

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                                        • KellyK
                                          Kelly
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                                          I wonder if Microsoft is paying attention: https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293440/microsoft-windows/an-open-letter-to-microsoft-management-re-windows-updating.html

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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @Kelly
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                                            @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            I wonder if Microsoft is paying attention: https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293440/microsoft-windows/an-open-letter-to-microsoft-management-re-windows-updating.html

                                            I spotted an article somewhere today saying that they're going to offer it as a service. It wouldn't surprise me in the least.

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