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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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      @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @Obsolesce and @scottalanmiller I'm not sure why the two of you seem to be arguing that this is a bad thing.

      Nobody said it's a bad thing...

      Agreed. Just arguing that using HTTP in some cases wasn't irresponsible.

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      • KellyK
        Kelly @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @Obsolesce and @scottalanmiller I'm not sure why the two of you seem to be arguing that this is a bad thing.

        Nobody said it's a bad thing...

        Agreed. Just arguing that using HTTP in some cases wasn't irresponsible.

        To what end? There are a lot nits that get picked on this site that cause the discussion to go off the rails for no real purpose that I can perceive. You're not wrong, but did that improve the discussion in any way? I'm not pointing fingers at you in particular, this thread is just one of many where this has happened. I don't know that anything will change, but it bothers me how quality discussions devolve into a back and forth about one point that is tangential to the main focus, and not in a healthy discussion way.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Kelly
          last edited by

          @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @Obsolesce and @scottalanmiller I'm not sure why the two of you seem to be arguing that this is a bad thing.

          Nobody said it's a bad thing...

          Agreed. Just arguing that using HTTP in some cases wasn't irresponsible.

          To what end? There are a lot nits that get picked on this site that cause the discussion to go off the rails for no real purpose that I can perceive. You're not wrong, but did that improve the discussion in any way? I'm not pointing fingers at you in particular, this thread is just one of many where this has happened. I don't know that anything will change, but it bothers me how quality discussions devolve into a back and forth about one point that is tangential to the main focus, and not in a healthy discussion way.

          Not to make this one of those, but I feel like, for me at least, this was productive. Because while it took a bit of back and forth, @stacksofplates exposed the OAUTH "style" risk that is very real and had not been considered. And then the HSTS necessity was brought up. WHich I think was good additional stuff.

          Maybe it's too much back and forth, but isn't that how you test concepts to see what is useful and find nuances that were missed? We could skip all that, but wouldn't the discussion have less if we did?

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          • KellyK
            Kelly @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @Obsolesce and @scottalanmiller I'm not sure why the two of you seem to be arguing that this is a bad thing.

            Nobody said it's a bad thing...

            Agreed. Just arguing that using HTTP in some cases wasn't irresponsible.

            To what end? There are a lot nits that get picked on this site that cause the discussion to go off the rails for no real purpose that I can perceive. You're not wrong, but did that improve the discussion in any way? I'm not pointing fingers at you in particular, this thread is just one of many where this has happened. I don't know that anything will change, but it bothers me how quality discussions devolve into a back and forth about one point that is tangential to the main focus, and not in a healthy discussion way.

            Not to make this one of those, but I feel like, for me at least, this was productive. Because while it took a bit of back and forth, @stacksofplates exposed the OAUTH "style" risk that is very real and had not been considered. And then the HSTS necessity was brought up. WHich I think was good additional stuff.

            Maybe it's too much back and forth, but isn't that how you test concepts to see what is useful and find nuances that were missed? We could skip all that, but wouldn't the discussion have less if we did?

            If value is derived from the discussion, then I'm all for it. I did not have the impression from the responses that the respondents to @stacksofplates posts were getting anything from them aside from more things to "discuss". This current discussion is not alone in my opinion. But, perhaps I'm being overly sensitive and am reading too much into things.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @Kelly
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              @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              But, perhaps I'm being overly sensitive and am reading too much into things.

              Probably this IMO.

              Valid points were made, additional considerations were brought to light, more understanding and concepts came from it... that's how things progress.

              If only a single aspect of something is talked about, and all else is not considered, well I think that's dangerous and how misconceptions and misinformation can form.

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              • KellyK
                Kelly
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                <opinion>Twitter: We don't shadow ban, but we make it so people's tweets don't show up in feeds if we don't like them</opinion>

                https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/topics/company/2018/Setting-the-record-straight-on-shadow-banning.html

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Kelly
                  last edited by

                  @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  <opinion>Twitter: We don't shadow ban, but we make it so people's tweets don't show up in feeds if we don't like them</opinion>

                  https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/topics/company/2018/Setting-the-record-straight-on-shadow-banning.html

                  Ha

                  And... their stock is falling.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    Facebook loss this week is a staggering amount of market cap.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Slack has purchased HipChat, from Atlassian.

                      HipChat effectively built this form of instant messaging platform, but Slack made the big money from it.

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato
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                        Wow, what a HTTPS discussion that I missed lol. Vulnerabilities will be always there no matter what HTTP or HTTPS you have. I always have argued that having a proxy is still not secure end to end for internal traffic (I know, if anything is internal to your network we have more problems).

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce
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                          https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/07/27/dell-xps13-developer-edition-ships-with-ubuntu-18-04-lts-pre-installed

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/07/27/dell-xps13-developer-edition-ships-with-ubuntu-18-04-lts-pre-installed

                            Not bad.

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                            • dbeatoD
                              dbeato @Obsolesce
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                              @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/07/27/dell-xps13-developer-edition-ships-with-ubuntu-18-04-lts-pre-installed

                              Nice, Dell has always supported Ubuntu. Most of the new computers we buy for VL licensing come with Ubuntu through Dell.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

                                  That is truly epic and brilliant.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

                                    That is truly epic and brilliant.

                                    I thought it was an awesome way to generate a RNG seed.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

                                      That is truly epic and brilliant.

                                      I thought it was an awesome way to generate a RNG seed.

                                      It really is. Completely brilliant. Although it uses a LOT of power. But I bet that looks super cool.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

                                        That is truly epic and brilliant.

                                        I thought it was an awesome way to generate a RNG seed.

                                        It really is. Completely brilliant. Although it uses a LOT of power. But I bet that looks super cool.

                                        Yeah, if they are using the biggest one, that thing has a 100W bulb.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          How Cloudflare Uses Lava Lamps to Guard Against Hackers

                                          That is truly epic and brilliant.

                                          I thought it was an awesome way to generate a RNG seed.

                                          It really is. Completely brilliant. Although it uses a LOT of power. But I bet that looks super cool.

                                          Yeah, if they are using the biggest one, that thing has a 100W bulb.

                                          Yeah, and gets' HOT. Lots of AC needed for that room.

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                                          • jmooreJ
                                            jmoore @JaredBusch
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                                            @jaredbusch That is incredible and great

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