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      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

      @wirestyle22 said in Managing Hyper-V:

      @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

      @wirestyle22 said in Managing Hyper-V:

      The issue with that is my lack of powershell knowledge

      base knowledge needed to work on Windows. Just how it is.

      Directly conflicts with me wanting to turn myself into a proper linux systems administrator

      Not really. Good practices on Windows are good practices on Linux. They are not as different as people think.

      I just mean i have extremely limited time and I have been using it to read about Red Hat and the Linux Command Line. The prospect of also studying for Powershell is off-putting 😞

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        Obsolesce
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        I prefer them on a domain if possible. As soon as the Hyper-V group policies hit, remote management is automatic and guaranteed. (with the exception of Nano Server, I run a script)

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          Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

          @Mike-Davis said in Managing Hyper-V:

          @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

          Not something that I've looked into yet. But if you use PowerShell to manage Hyper-V, is there anyway to get console access without another tool? Like can PS be used to activate an RDP session to a VM console redirect?

          I've been able to install screen connect on it and manage it that way.

          How do you get SC onto a fresh install of Windows? You need to make the base image somewhere with a console.

          download the .msi installer and use the command line msiexec /i to install it the same way you install the open manage tools. In Screen Connect it's like you're sitting at the console:
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            Mike Davis @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said in Managing Hyper-V:

            The issue with that is my lack of powershell knowledge

            How often are you creating new VMs and all that? Just google it and you're good to go. The day to day stuff is pretty much menu driven:
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              wirestyle22 @Mike Davis
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              @Mike-Davis said in Managing Hyper-V:

              @wirestyle22 said in Managing Hyper-V:

              The issue with that is my lack of powershell knowledge

              How often are you creating new VMs and all that? Just google it and you're good to go. The day to day stuff is pretty much menu driven:
              0_1498230418313_host2.png

              The installation of Hyper-V is easy. I have not been able to figure out how to manager a non-domain connected host from a domain connected workstation via hyper-v manager. If powershell management is the only option then I have a problem

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                scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                @Mike-Davis said in Managing Hyper-V:

                @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                @Mike-Davis said in Managing Hyper-V:

                @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                Not something that I've looked into yet. But if you use PowerShell to manage Hyper-V, is there anyway to get console access without another tool? Like can PS be used to activate an RDP session to a VM console redirect?

                I've been able to install screen connect on it and manage it that way.

                How do you get SC onto a fresh install of Windows? You need to make the base image somewhere with a console.

                download the .msi installer and use the command line msiexec /i to install it the same way you install the open manage tools. In Screen Connect it's like you're sitting at the console:
                0_1498230085374_sc.png

                What's your method for installing and configuring the base OS to get to that point?

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  I know that you can use Hyper-V on Windows 10, make a base image, and then deploy via image. Is that just what people do? Make the starting images via a different process then just use command line PS or similar to manage them once they are deployed? This is how AWS and Azure work, so it isn't crazy. But it's not ideally convenient either, and those systems lose console access which can be a pain and there isn't any reason to have to lose that with Hyper-V.

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                    Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller

                    What's your method for installing and configuring the base OS to get to that point?

                    It's a new physical host, so I'm physically in front of the server or using ilo/DRAC. Attach the hyper-v .iso, install, and then map a drive to a share on my laptop to get screen connect and/or open manage, etc.

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                      scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                      @Mike-Davis said in Managing Hyper-V:

                      @scottalanmiller

                      What's your method for installing and configuring the base OS to get to that point?

                      It's a new physical host, so I'm physically in front of the server or using ilo/DRAC. Attach the hyper-v .iso, install, and then map a drive to a share on my laptop to get screen connect and/or open manage, etc.

                      How does that help, though? We want console access to the VMs, not to the Hyper-V host. What does a connection to the Hyper-V host buy us?

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                        DustinB3403
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                        Sounding more and more like hyperv is a disaster without these kinds of tools

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                          wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Managing Hyper-V:

                          Sounding more and more like hyperv is a disaster without these kinds of tools

                          It seems very frustrating to me but a lot of people use it and are happy with it so I chalked it up to my own inexperience, which it still may be

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                            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                            @Mike-Davis said in Managing Hyper-V:

                            @scottalanmiller

                            What's your method for installing and configuring the base OS to get to that point?

                            It's a new physical host, so I'm physically in front of the server or using ilo/DRAC. Attach the hyper-v .iso, install, and then map a drive to a share on my laptop to get screen connect and/or open manage, etc.

                            How does that help, though? We want console access to the VMs, not to the Hyper-V host. What does a connection to the Hyper-V host buy us?

                            VM creation?

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                              DustinB3403
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                              I've used 2012 with hyperv enabled, and if we ever wanted to manage or create a vm Wed rep to the server.

                              Which is a bit insane. But it's how it worked.

                              Can you RDP to a straight hyperv install for the same use?

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                                wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                I've used 2012 with hyperv enabled, and if we ever wanted to manage or create a vm Wed rep to the server.

                                Which is a bit insane. But it's how it worked.

                                Can you RDP to a straight hyperv install for the same use?

                                Yes you can

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                                  Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                  How does that help, though? We want console access to the VMs, not to the Hyper-V host. What does a connection to the Hyper-V host buy us?

                                  I was thinking about the typical VM tasks like allocating more space or moving vm files around. I forgot we were trying to get console access.

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                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                    Sounding more and more like hyperv is a disaster without these kinds of tools

                                    It's pretty limited currently. Losing 5Nine is a blow to the entire ecosystem.

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                                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                      Sounding more and more like hyperv is a disaster without these kinds of tools

                                      It's pretty limited currently. Losing 5Nine is a blow to the entire ecosystem.

                                      It really does seem that way

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                                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                        Sounding more and more like hyperv is a disaster without these kinds of tools

                                        It seems very frustrating to me but a lot of people use it and are happy with it so I chalked it up to my own inexperience, which it still may be

                                        Most people use it in ways we'd never consider to be production viable for any other platform, though.

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                                          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                          @wirestyle22 said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                          @Mike-Davis said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                          @scottalanmiller

                                          What's your method for installing and configuring the base OS to get to that point?

                                          It's a new physical host, so I'm physically in front of the server or using ilo/DRAC. Attach the hyper-v .iso, install, and then map a drive to a share on my laptop to get screen connect and/or open manage, etc.

                                          How does that help, though? We want console access to the VMs, not to the Hyper-V host. What does a connection to the Hyper-V host buy us?

                                          VM creation?

                                          In what way? What does that do that PS doesn't already do?

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                                            scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                                            @Mike-Davis said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                            How does that help, though? We want console access to the VMs, not to the Hyper-V host. What does a connection to the Hyper-V host buy us?

                                            I was thinking about the typical VM tasks like allocating more space or moving vm files around. I forgot we were trying to get console access.

                                            Ah, that we can do with PS already even easier (once remoting is enabled.)

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