Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon
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@scottalanmiller What open source accounting software do you run? Will it tie in with my PSA solution like QuickBooks does?
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@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
@scottalanmiller What open source accounting software do you run? Will it tie in with my PSA solution like QuickBooks does?
Why use open source or care when really good enterprise systems are often free or cheap? Accounting is not a place to play games, of course open source might be better than QuickBooks. But it's things like Wave and Zero that often make more sense. If you are dealing with people on dial up or something, you might need to resort to a locally installed package. But accounting just isn't a product category where running your own servers makes sense.
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@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
@scottalanmiller You have Premiere Pro CC on Linux? What about Illustrator? Photoshop? That's what everyone uses...at least professionally. I haven't met a single professional running open source software to do video editing. Never.
I said professional shop. Your redefining professional as "people who use the software I'm trying to make a point about" doesn't make it so.
You know some studios use open source for video editing. You'll also note that I didn't introduce open source. Of course that's obviously sensible whenever all other things are equal. But you keep injecting points I didn't make.
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@scottalanmiller Xero doesn't even allow for dates for line items:
https://community.xero.com/business/discussion/78931That request was from 2012...it's 2017 and they still haven't implemented it. As much as I hate QuickBooks Xero is far behind.
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@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
@scottalanmiller You have Premiere Pro CC on Linux? What about Illustrator? Photoshop? That's what everyone uses...at least professionally. I haven't met a single professional running open source software to do video editing. Never.
I have, we have one here where I work.
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@scottalanmiller My point is that linux isn't for everyone. Neither is OSX. Neither is Windows. You seem to be arguing that most people could or should be running Linux. My problem with Linux is that it's very limited to common apps that people use on a day to day basis - for example - iTunes.
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@DustinB3403 I'm not saying that no professional has ever used open source software to cut video - I'm saying that no organization that specializes in video editing/production is running anything other than the following:
Avid, PP CC, Final Cut 7 or X, or Davinci Resolve, Edius, or Sony Vegas (very few..more consumer based.) -
@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
@DustinB3403 I'm not saying that no professional has ever used open source software to cut video - I'm saying that no organization that specializes in video editing/production is running anything other than the following:
Avid, PP CC, Final Cut 7 or X, or Davinci Resolve, Edius, or Sony Vegas (very view..more consumer based.)Clearly you are wrong here then. . .
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@DustinB3403 So tell me more about your setup then. What's your post production workflow look like.
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@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
@scottalanmiller My point is that linux isn't for everyone. Neither is OSX. Neither is Windows. You seem to be arguing that most people could or should be running Linux. My problem with Linux is that it's very limited to common apps that people use on a day to day basis - for example - iTunes.
No one runs Linux. People use Cent OS, RedHat, Ubuntu, Mint, Korora etc.
Use the correct terminology please.
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@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
@DustinB3403 So tell me more about your setup then. What's your post production workflow look like.
I'm not involved in the system at all, but I know we have a linux box for 3D design, and video work we do.
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@DustinB3403 Dude...I've been using Ubuntu through this entire thread. Instead of saying Linux...I'll just say ALL the operating systems that run on the Linux Kernel.
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@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
@DustinB3403 Dude...I've been using Ubuntu through this entire thread. Instead of saying Linux...I'll just say ALL the operating systems that run on the Linux Kernel.
Just say you're using Ubuntu then.
I'm on a Windows 10 Pro desktop, but you don't see me saying I'm usint NT6
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@DustinB3403 What does your company do? Is it strictly post?
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@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
@scottalanmiller Since I'm a one man show I'm guessing I handle a bigger variety of tasks than you do working for someone else. I handle graphic design/marketing/accounting/etc. All of these types of Apps - guess what - don't run on Linux.
You are joking right? The largest accounting/finance systems run on Linux.
If "what professionals use" is the metric then Quickbooks is the furthest away possible.
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@stacksofplates Of course there are examples where certain apps run on Linux. That doesn't need to be said. Which accounting software are you referring to BTW?
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@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
What about QuickBooks?
The accountants use it here, and I can't stand it. Intuit makes a habit of lying to my face while I'm quoting their own documentation to them.
I got my start as and admin for things like PRO-E, IDEAS, CATIA, and Medusa. All of them ran on IRIX/OpenVMS at the time. PRO-E was the first thing they got in that had an option to run on a Windows platform, but was still available for just about every modern OS.
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@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
@stacksofplates Of course there are examples where certain apps run on Linux. That doesn't need to be said. Which accounting software are you referring to BTW?
If we are talking "the biggest" then I assume SAP and Oracle. MS is even moving many of their most critical workloads to Linux. That will take a while, though.
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@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
@scottalanmiller Xero doesn't even allow for dates for line items:
https://community.xero.com/business/discussion/78931That request was from 2012...it's 2017 and they still haven't implemented it. As much as I hate QuickBooks Xero is far behind.
Largest accounting office in Manhattan claims exactly the opposite. They recommend Xero and state quite clearly that QB is just for companies that don't know any better. They support it, of course, because there is loads of money is supporting bad things.
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@frodooftheshire said in Lenovo T470s vs X1 Carbon:
@stacksofplates Of course there are examples where certain apps run on Linux. That doesn't need to be said. Which accounting software are you referring to BTW?
Mostly referencing SAP and Oracle but this doesn't include platform agnostic tools that are completely web based like Sage, Freshbooks, Odoo, and whatever other slew of web based accounting/ERP systems.
And if you have to use it, Quickbooks has their hosted version that's not nearly as bad as the on prem version.
