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      dafyre @Emad R
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      @msff-amman-Itofficer said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

      @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

      @msff-amman-Itofficer said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

      @scottalanmiller @wrx7m

      Actually it happens when someone empties a folder (even if he emptied it for 1 moment then added more files later), the sync stops on other users and next cloud pop up asks them something like :

      We have detected that someone cleared the folder do you want to clear it as well or keep files.

      the thing is the Sync actually stops on other users till this is answered, the good thing to do then is to copy all the already files in the sync folder to the desktop for example then choose clear to get new files, so you have the option to compare stuff. I think I solved this by creating Dummy file so the folder never gets emptied but its up for the users to respect and understand those stuff, otherwise just default them to the web nextcloud app, where users can drag and drop files after finishing working on them.

      Interesting. How often are people emptying folders? I've not seen this happen, but not sure we've ever done that, either.

      Your users are smart unlike mine, I have to deal with doctors... people assume they are smart. but trust me they dont want to learn anything new

      They spent 20 years in school. They feel they shouldn't have to!

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        scottalanmiller @Emad R
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        @msff-amman-Itofficer said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

        @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

        @msff-amman-Itofficer said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

        @scottalanmiller @wrx7m

        Actually it happens when someone empties a folder (even if he emptied it for 1 moment then added more files later), the sync stops on other users and next cloud pop up asks them something like :

        We have detected that someone cleared the folder do you want to clear it as well or keep files.

        the thing is the Sync actually stops on other users till this is answered, the good thing to do then is to copy all the already files in the sync folder to the desktop for example then choose clear to get new files, so you have the option to compare stuff. I think I solved this by creating Dummy file so the folder never gets emptied but its up for the users to respect and understand those stuff, otherwise just default them to the web nextcloud app, where users can drag and drop files after finishing working on them.

        Interesting. How often are people emptying folders? I've not seen this happen, but not sure we've ever done that, either.

        Your users are smart unlike mine, I have to deal with doctors... people assume they are smart. but trust me they dont want to learn anything new

        Oh, we know.

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          scottalanmiller @dafyre
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          @dafyre said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

          @msff-amman-Itofficer said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

          @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

          @msff-amman-Itofficer said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

          @scottalanmiller @wrx7m

          Actually it happens when someone empties a folder (even if he emptied it for 1 moment then added more files later), the sync stops on other users and next cloud pop up asks them something like :

          We have detected that someone cleared the folder do you want to clear it as well or keep files.

          the thing is the Sync actually stops on other users till this is answered, the good thing to do then is to copy all the already files in the sync folder to the desktop for example then choose clear to get new files, so you have the option to compare stuff. I think I solved this by creating Dummy file so the folder never gets emptied but its up for the users to respect and understand those stuff, otherwise just default them to the web nextcloud app, where users can drag and drop files after finishing working on them.

          Interesting. How often are people emptying folders? I've not seen this happen, but not sure we've ever done that, either.

          Your users are smart unlike mine, I have to deal with doctors... people assume they are smart. but trust me they dont want to learn anything new

          They spent 20 years in school.

          To learn what they should have picked up in two.

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            wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

            @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

            @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

            Now if you need tons of storage, Vultr won't make a lot of sense. They are unbeatable for 250GB - 1TB. I mean totally untouchable. Go much beyond that and you are going to want someone else, possibly your own service. What size range / scale are we talking? Less than 1TB, 1TB to 4TB, 4TB+?

            I'm not completely sure but I would imagine it would be less than 1TB but I'm going to have to get more information from them.

            Then Vultr is the super obvious choice. You can go over a TB there too, but go much over and the price stops being the slam dunk that it is below 1TB.

            I see SSD VPS plans on Vultr. Is that what you are referring to?

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              travisdh1 @wrx7m
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              @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

              @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

              @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

              @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

              Now if you need tons of storage, Vultr won't make a lot of sense. They are unbeatable for 250GB - 1TB. I mean totally untouchable. Go much beyond that and you are going to want someone else, possibly your own service. What size range / scale are we talking? Less than 1TB, 1TB to 4TB, 4TB+?

              I'm not completely sure but I would imagine it would be less than 1TB but I'm going to have to get more information from them.

              Then Vultr is the super obvious choice. You can go over a TB there too, but go much over and the price stops being the slam dunk that it is below 1TB.

              I see SSD VPS plans on Vultr. Is that what you are referring to?

              They have storage instances as well, but you can only see that tab after logging in.

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                Emad R @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                To learn what they should have picked up in two.

                Oh Snap, i have to use this with them some time. Some times i have special errands in the O.T floor... I finish them but my hand would be shaking all the day

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                  scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                  @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                  @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                  Now if you need tons of storage, Vultr won't make a lot of sense. They are unbeatable for 250GB - 1TB. I mean totally untouchable. Go much beyond that and you are going to want someone else, possibly your own service. What size range / scale are we talking? Less than 1TB, 1TB to 4TB, 4TB+?

                  I'm not completely sure but I would imagine it would be less than 1TB but I'm going to have to get more information from them.

                  Then Vultr is the super obvious choice. You can go over a TB there too, but go much over and the price stops being the slam dunk that it is below 1TB.

                  I see SSD VPS plans on Vultr. Is that what you are referring to?

                  No, you use SATA for storage.

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                    wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                    @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                    @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                    Now if you need tons of storage, Vultr won't make a lot of sense. They are unbeatable for 250GB - 1TB. I mean totally untouchable. Go much beyond that and you are going to want someone else, possibly your own service. What size range / scale are we talking? Less than 1TB, 1TB to 4TB, 4TB+?

                    I'm not completely sure but I would imagine it would be less than 1TB but I'm going to have to get more information from them.

                    Then Vultr is the super obvious choice. You can go over a TB there too, but go much over and the price stops being the slam dunk that it is below 1TB.

                    I see SSD VPS plans on Vultr. Is that what you are referring to?

                    No, you use SATA for storage.

                    After logging in a see the storage option. Although, they are "sold out" of quite a few options. In Los Angeles, they only have the $5/mo option. I don't suppose moving an instance to another data center is easy.

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                      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                      @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                      @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                      @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                      Now if you need tons of storage, Vultr won't make a lot of sense. They are unbeatable for 250GB - 1TB. I mean totally untouchable. Go much beyond that and you are going to want someone else, possibly your own service. What size range / scale are we talking? Less than 1TB, 1TB to 4TB, 4TB+?

                      I'm not completely sure but I would imagine it would be less than 1TB but I'm going to have to get more information from them.

                      Then Vultr is the super obvious choice. You can go over a TB there too, but go much over and the price stops being the slam dunk that it is below 1TB.

                      I see SSD VPS plans on Vultr. Is that what you are referring to?

                      No, you use SATA for storage.

                      After logging in a see the storage option. Although, they are "sold out" of quite a few options. In Los Angeles, they only have the $5/mo option. I don't suppose moving an instance to another data center is easy.

                      You have to pay attention, they sell out fast and release new ones every few days. They've exploded in popularity and can't deploy hardware fast enough.

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                        wrx7m
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                        Is it OK to use the "Application" server type for NextCloud? I see that it is CentOS6. At this stage, it is more of a POC at this point but it could turn into production use for a handful of users and may even expand company-wide. I am not sure how much work/time to put into it at this point.

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                          scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                          @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                          Is it OK to use the "Application" server type for NextCloud?

                          No, their applications are ancient and unmaintained. I don't even look in that section.

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                            wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                            @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                            @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                            @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                            Now if you need tons of storage, Vultr won't make a lot of sense. They are unbeatable for 250GB - 1TB. I mean totally untouchable. Go much beyond that and you are going to want someone else, possibly your own service. What size range / scale are we talking? Less than 1TB, 1TB to 4TB, 4TB+?

                            I'm not completely sure but I would imagine it would be less than 1TB but I'm going to have to get more information from them.

                            Then Vultr is the super obvious choice. You can go over a TB there too, but go much over and the price stops being the slam dunk that it is below 1TB.

                            I see SSD VPS plans on Vultr. Is that what you are referring to?

                            No, you use SATA for storage.

                            After logging in a see the storage option. Although, they are "sold out" of quite a few options. In Los Angeles, they only have the $5/mo option. I don't suppose moving an instance to another data center is easy.

                            You have to pay attention, they sell out fast and release new ones every few days. They've exploded in popularity and can't deploy hardware fast enough.

                            I guess that is good. Popularity in this case seems to indicate value.

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                              scottalanmiller
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                              Use my Fedora 25 Salt guide. It "just works". Builds the whole thing for you.

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                                wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                                Use my Fedora 25 Salt guide. It "just works". Builds the whole thing for you.

                                Thanks. I figured as much. I did see your guide while looking into deploying Nextcloud. I also read a couple weeks ago about current PHP versions and Nextcloud support (or lack of). Is that a concern here?

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                                  scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                                  @wrx7m said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                                  Use my Fedora 25 Salt guide. It "just works". Builds the whole thing for you.

                                  Thanks. I figured as much. I did see your guide while looking into deploying Nextcloud. I also read a couple weeks ago about current PHP versions and Nextcloud support (or lack of). Is that a concern here?

                                  Which are they lacking on? I have them in 7.1.

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                                    wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller NM - https://mangolassi.it/topic/12856/nextcloud-and-php-7

                                    I guess it was more related to CentOS 7 and you said you were using Fedora 25 because of that. My go to these days is CentOS 7. Not that I have tons of Linux experience, but I have done most of my tinkering and work with it.

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                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Fedora fixes that stuff 🙂

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                                        wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Large file sharing to, from and within mainland China:

                                        Fedora fixes that stuff 🙂

                                        I am trying to build a VM in my on-prem VMware (version 6) environment to play around with Fedora and NextCloud while I wait for Vultr to build out its inventory. I can't find Fedora listed on the Guest OS section and when I check the guest OS compatibility guide from VMware ( http://partnerweb.vmware.com/GOSIG/home.html ), it only shows 24 and only in the desktop version. Should I just pick RHEL in the New VM configuration?

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                                          momurda @wrx7m
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                                          @wrx7m I used to choose Other Linux when i used vmware and specific distro i was using wasnt listed.

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                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Picking RHEL 7 is probably fine.

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