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    • bigbearB
      bigbear
      last edited by

      All I know is that I Like my Whopper without politics.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @bigbear
        last edited by

        @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        All I know is that I Like my Whopper without politics.

        For those who haven't seen it yet.

        Youtube Video

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          WOW - that's awesome!

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

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            • bigbearB
              bigbear @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              WOW - that's awesome!

              It is funny, and their does need to be a law.

              I just don't believe all these big companies have such big hearts that they there isnt some other reach around going on for some other agenda.

              Meanwhile, why did the two closest Burger Kings disappear on me in the last 12 months? Now I gotta drive all the way to Springboro to get Whopper. They were also the fastest Burger Kings.

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              • bigbearB
                bigbear @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @bigbear
                  last edited by

                  @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                  Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                  Because we've already given billions to the large ISPs, just to have them back out and keep the money. Of course, it's government, so nobody should be surprised by this.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @bigbear
                    last edited by

                    @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                    Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                    There were programs at the federal and state levels. NYS offered a silly amount of money to ISPs to expand. They took the money and pocketed it. The AG is suing right now for failure to hold up their end of the bargain.

                    There was also the lifeline, I think that's what it was called, program to help rural and poor people pay for access to the internet. I think that could have been expanded... but it wasn't and instead has been cut back tremendously.

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                    • bigbearB
                      bigbear @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                      Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                      There were programs at the federal and state levels. NYS offered a silly amount of money to ISPs to expand. They took the money and pocketed it. The AG is suing right now for failure to hold up their end of the bargain.

                      There was also the lifeline, I think that's what it was called, program to help rural and poor people pay for access to the internet. I think that could have been expanded... but it wasn't and instead has been cut back tremendously.

                      We've never experienced anything like that (KY, OH, IN)

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                      • bigbearB
                        bigbear @bigbear
                        last edited by

                        @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                        Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                        There were programs at the federal and state levels. NYS offered a silly amount of money to ISPs to expand. They took the money and pocketed it. The AG is suing right now for failure to hold up their end of the bargain.

                        There was also the lifeline, I think that's what it was called, program to help rural and poor people pay for access to the internet. I think that could have been expanded... but it wasn't and instead has been cut back tremendously.

                        We've never experienced anything like that (KY, OH, IN)

                        Else I would be in a different business still...

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @bigbear
                          last edited by

                          @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                          Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                          There were programs at the federal and state levels. NYS offered a silly amount of money to ISPs to expand. They took the money and pocketed it. The AG is suing right now for failure to hold up their end of the bargain.

                          There was also the lifeline, I think that's what it was called, program to help rural and poor people pay for access to the internet. I think that could have been expanded... but it wasn't and instead has been cut back tremendously.

                          We've never experienced anything like that (KY, OH, IN)

                          Else I would be in a different business still...

                          NYS is still offering this to rural ISPs. They can be part of a grant if they expand their coverage by a specific number of customers (I think... it may be based on milage) per year. The catch is that it had to meet the federal (FCC) definition of broadband. Which, until recently, could only be satisfied by wireless, fiber, or coax. So they couldn't put in any new DSL lines.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @bigbear
                            last edited by

                            @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                            Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                            I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                              Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                              I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.

                              I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                                Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                                I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.

                                I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.

                                I'm not for that or power either.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                                  Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                                  I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.

                                  I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.

                                  I'm not for that or power either.

                                  Ah see that's where we differ. I would deem communication and power to be essential services.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @coliver
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                                    Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                                    I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.

                                    I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.

                                    I'm not for that or power either.

                                    Ah see that's where we differ. I would deem communication and power to be essential services.

                                    Then they should be state run. And in that case, then yes, I would be onboard with that. Remove it from the private sector, and you'll get my blessing, more or less.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                                      Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                                      I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.

                                      I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.

                                      I'm not for that or power either.

                                      Ah see that's where we differ. I would deem communication and power to be essential services.

                                      Then they should be state run. And in that case, then yes, I would be onboard with that. Remove it from the private sector, and you'll get my blessing, more or less.

                                      Electric services are more or less state run in most of the US. In all but name. But I agree with you, utilities should be provided and run by the state.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                                        Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                                        I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.

                                        I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.

                                        I'm not for that or power either.

                                        Ah see that's where we differ. I would deem communication and power to be essential services.

                                        Then they should be state run. And in that case, then yes, I would be onboard with that. Remove it from the private sector, and you'll get my blessing, more or less.

                                        Electric services are more or less state run in most of the US. In all but name. But I agree with you, utilities should be provided and run by the state.

                                        So many issues would be resovled (including Net Neutrality) if these utilities were all state run.

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                                        • mlnewsM
                                          mlnews
                                          last edited by

                                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/california-senate-approves-net-neutrality-law-in-defiance-of-fcc/

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                                          • popesterP
                                            popester @mlnews
                                            last edited by popester

                                            @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/california-senate-approves-net-neutrality-law-in-defiance-of-fcc/

                                            Can't argue with that. 10th amendment baybee!

                                            Edit: You can argue with that and i am sure someone will......

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