FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues
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@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.
Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?
There were programs at the federal and state levels. NYS offered a silly amount of money to ISPs to expand. They took the money and pocketed it. The AG is suing right now for failure to hold up their end of the bargain.
There was also the lifeline, I think that's what it was called, program to help rural and poor people pay for access to the internet. I think that could have been expanded... but it wasn't and instead has been cut back tremendously.
We've never experienced anything like that (KY, OH, IN)
Else I would be in a different business still...
NYS is still offering this to rural ISPs. They can be part of a grant if they expand their coverage by a specific number of customers (I think... it may be based on milage) per year. The catch is that it had to meet the federal (FCC) definition of broadband. Which, until recently, could only be satisfied by wireless, fiber, or coax. So they couldn't put in any new DSL lines.
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@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.
Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?
I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.
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@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.
Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?
I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.
I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.
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@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.
Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?
I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.
I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.
I'm not for that or power either.
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@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.
Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?
I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.
I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.
I'm not for that or power either.
Ah see that's where we differ. I would deem communication and power to be essential services.
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@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.
Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?
I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.
I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.
I'm not for that or power either.
Ah see that's where we differ. I would deem communication and power to be essential services.
Then they should be state run. And in that case, then yes, I would be onboard with that. Remove it from the private sector, and you'll get my blessing, more or less.
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@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.
Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?
I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.
I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.
I'm not for that or power either.
Ah see that's where we differ. I would deem communication and power to be essential services.
Then they should be state run. And in that case, then yes, I would be onboard with that. Remove it from the private sector, and you'll get my blessing, more or less.
Electric services are more or less state run in most of the US. In all but name. But I agree with you, utilities should be provided and run by the state.
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@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.
Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?
I have a really hard time with this personally. I see some value in this, but I haven't reached a point yet where I feel it's the government's place to mandate that companies provide services to rural areas.
I think we're there and have been for almost a decade. It's no different then telephone service.
I'm not for that or power either.
Ah see that's where we differ. I would deem communication and power to be essential services.
Then they should be state run. And in that case, then yes, I would be onboard with that. Remove it from the private sector, and you'll get my blessing, more or less.
Electric services are more or less state run in most of the US. In all but name. But I agree with you, utilities should be provided and run by the state.
So many issues would be resovled (including Net Neutrality) if these utilities were all state run.
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@mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
Can't argue with that. 10th amendment baybee!
Edit: You can argue with that and i am sure someone will......
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California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law
The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.
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@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law
The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.
Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.
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@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law
The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.
Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.
That's actually something CA is famous for.
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@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law
The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.
Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.
We just made it illegal to sell animals from animal mills.
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@tim_g said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law
The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.
Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.
We just made it illegal to sell animals from animal mills.
Do you mean puppy mills? So how do you get the pet you want, rather than whatever you happen to snatch from a shelter?
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@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@tim_g said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law
The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.
Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.
We just made it illegal to sell animals from animal mills.
Do you mean puppy mills? So how do you get the pet you want, rather than whatever you happen to snatch from a shelter?
I don't know much about it. But there are plenty of ways to get pets besides the horrible puppy mills.
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@tim_g said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@tim_g said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law
The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.
Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.
We just made it illegal to sell animals from animal mills.
Do you mean puppy mills? So how do you get the pet you want, rather than whatever you happen to snatch from a shelter?
I don't know much about it. But there are plenty of ways to get pets besides the horrible puppy mills.
I can agree that most puppy mills are horrible. I can also say I know a few people who breed dogs, and don't treat their pets like trash, only to produce more trash.
I understand, just curious what the plan is for the future. (purebreeds = inbred) so I would never get a purebred animal of any kind.
