XenServer 7.1 is out...
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@BRRABill said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
When you install the free version of "the product formally know to me as XS" ... where does that come from?
It's made by Linux. It's hosted by whatever server hosts the official files. Citrix donates the hosting currently. Just like how many Microsoft products are hosted by Github.
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@matteo-nunziati said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
Good find.
Important to note that the REAL host of the project is Github. Citrix only hosts the ISOs.
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Would be nice if XenServer was forked or repackaged into a different version. Maybe call it XenOS and include newer XenCenter that is web-based like ESXi Embedded Host Client.
And that doesn't disable SELinux, CentOS Repo and support other file systems like ext4 and XFS and instead of vhd adopt vhdx.
These discussions will be happening every time XenServer is release because it's still linked to Citrix one way or another.
It's open source on xenserver.org. You go to Citrix website and they confuse you with Standard or Enterprise.
And then after all that you have Citrix XenCenter.I've been holding those words in for awhile now.
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@black3dynamite said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
Would be nice if XenServer was forked or repackaged into a different version. Maybe call it XenOS and include newer XenCenter that is web-based like ESXi Embedded Host Client.
And that doesn't disable SELinux, CentOS Repo and support other file systems like ext4 and XFS and instead of vhd adopt vhdx.
These discussions will be happening every time XenServer is release because it's still linked to Citrix one way or another.
It's open source on xenserver.org. You go to Citrix website and they confuse you with Standard or Enterprise.
And then after all that you have Citrix XenCenter.I've been holding those words in for awhile now.
Someone needs to take the core, update it, replace the missing features that Citrix stripped out years ago (DRBD, Fault Tolerance), integrate XO and package it that way
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@matteo-nunziati said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
Lots of clarity. My favorite is the last line. Various.
"Additionally, there are a small number of XenServer components which are not able to be open sourced. They are listed below, together with the reason they must remain closed.
Component Description Owner Reason
v6d License server daemon Citrix Links to closed source library
(various drivers) System drivers and user tools Various Third-party components which Citrix does not own" -
Btw... What about opensuse? Now they should move to a 4 year support window(*)... Do they still distribute xen hypervisor components or did they dropped it like redhat?
(*) still I do not know if they change kernel and other base stuff more frequently...
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@matteo-nunziati said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
Btw... What about opensuse? Now they should move to a 4 year support window(*)... Do they still distribute xen hypervisor components or did they dropped it like redhat?
(*) still I do not know if they change kernel and other base stuff more frequently...
Suse has two models. Leap is in lock step with Suse Enterprise. Tumbleweed updates constantly.
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@scottalanmiller yes but if you look at what has been updated recently in leap, they have diverged from SLES kernel
It is not clear what it is really in leap from SLES and what from community.therefore hardware certifications are not there. it is a trial and error thing. For everything else it seems nice, they also have a great primer for virtualization on leap with xen
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BTW: has anyone actually upgraded to 7.1 yet?
I was on their forums recently and it seems as though people are having a lot of issues with it.
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I am on 7.1, no issues so far except i had to contact unitrends and get a beta patch installed. Didnt read the patch notes for the UEB appliance, 7.1 isnt supported yet.
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@momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
I am on 7.1, no issues so far except i had to contact unitrends and get a beta patch installed. Didnt read the patch notes for the UEB appliance, 7.1 isnt supported yet.
Did you upgrade? And if so, from which version?
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I did an upgrade from 6.5 to 7.1. I had moved all my vdi off local XS host storage before the upgrade. One of the hosts upgraded to the new partition format, one still has the less than v7.0 partition layout. I am going to fix that soon.
One of the good things about XS is that designating new master is easy. Reinstalling a host is easy. Rejoining a pool and getting its settings is easy. -
@momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
I did an upgrade from 6.5 to 7.1. I had moved all my vdi off local XS host storage before the upgrade. One of the hosts upgraded to the new partition format, one still has the less than v7.0 partition layout. I am going to fix that soon.
One of the good things about XS is that designating new master is easy. Reinstalling a host is easy. Rejoining a pool and getting its settings is easy.That is what I am looking to do.
Why did the one host not upgrade to the new layout? That is what seems to be happening to a lot of people on the XS forum. The installation seems to freeze at the partitioning section, and leaves the XS inoperable. Looks like a bug, maybe.
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Not sure why it didnt. Perhaps there was an orphaned/hidden vdi leftover from some point in the past.
I just checked to make sure it was able to host vms, then moved on. Reinstalling a host takes about 10 minutes, ill get around to it eventually. -
@momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
Not sure why it didnt. Perhaps there was an orphaned/hidden vdi leftover from some point in the past.
I just checked to make sure it was able to host vms, then moved on. Reinstalling a host takes about 10 minutes, ill get around to it eventually.Yeah it is relatively painless, though always makes me nervous!
I am considering moving off the USB onto a RAID array for boot. (I have a spare one sitting unused.)
Backup VDI info. Reinstall XS to RAID array. Restore VDI info.
Should be relatively painless.
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@BRRABill said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
@momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
Not sure why it didnt. Perhaps there was an orphaned/hidden vdi leftover from some point in the past.
I just checked to make sure it was able to host vms, then moved on. Reinstalling a host takes about 10 minutes, ill get around to it eventually.Yeah it is relatively painless, though always makes me nervous!
I am considering moving off the USB onto a RAID array for boot. (I have a spare one sitting unused.)
Backup VDI info. Reinstall XS to RAID array. Restore VDI info.
Should be relatively painless.
You can avoid a lot of headaches by not installing XenServer on USB.
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@black3dynamite said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
@BRRABill said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
@momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
Not sure why it didnt. Perhaps there was an orphaned/hidden vdi leftover from some point in the past.
I just checked to make sure it was able to host vms, then moved on. Reinstalling a host takes about 10 minutes, ill get around to it eventually.Yeah it is relatively painless, though always makes me nervous!
I am considering moving off the USB onto a RAID array for boot. (I have a spare one sitting unused.)
Backup VDI info. Reinstall XS to RAID array. Restore VDI info.
Should be relatively painless.
You can avoid a lot of headaches by not installing XenServer on USB.
It's been fine for me, but I eventually am going to move to HD.
I figure it's the same process whether it dies, or I just migrate, so why rush?
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@BRRABill said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
@black3dynamite said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
@BRRABill said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
@momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:
Not sure why it didnt. Perhaps there was an orphaned/hidden vdi leftover from some point in the past.
I just checked to make sure it was able to host vms, then moved on. Reinstalling a host takes about 10 minutes, ill get around to it eventually.Yeah it is relatively painless, though always makes me nervous!
I am considering moving off the USB onto a RAID array for boot. (I have a spare one sitting unused.)
Backup VDI info. Reinstall XS to RAID array. Restore VDI info.
Should be relatively painless.
You can avoid a lot of headaches by not installing XenServer on USB.
It's been fine for me, but I eventually am going to move to HD.
I figure it's the same process whether it dies, or I just migrate, so why rush?
FFS! Didn't I hit you on this earlier?
Because one is not an emergency situation while the other is, with people beating down the door wanting to know why shit is down.
