Did you ever try NethServer ?
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@alefattorini said in Did you ever try NethServer ?:
@JaredBusch said in Did you ever try NethServer ?:
not following any of the links, just read the thread, but this sounds like what ClearOS tried to do.
Of course but we're crazy and we want to do it better
Well ClearOS crashed hard after version 5.2 years ago. So if you have something solid, I will certainly pay attention to it.
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@JaredBusch man, we're working hard with our thriving community to achieve that. If you trust us I promise you won't regret it
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@triple9 said in Did you ever try NethServer ?:
well, that sounds even better I'll test NethServer in my lab sooner than expected.
I can't wait to know what the outcome of that will be.
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@scottalanmiller @Reid-Cooper @IRJ @DustinB3403 @triple9 @StrongBad @aaronstuder @JaredBusch did you try NethServer finally? What are your feelings? Very curious
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@alefattorini I looked at it briefly, I hadn't dug into it very much.
Thanks for following up!
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@DustinB3403 My pleasure, we're working hard on that and more hand on deck the better
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@alefattorini said in Did you ever try NethServer ?:
@scottalanmiller @Reid-Cooper @IRJ @DustinB3403 @triple9 @StrongBad @aaronstuder @JaredBusch did you try NethServer finally? What are your feelings? Very curious
Not yet. It is on my project list for our Bundy lab.
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@alefattorini His computer lab.
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@alefattorini I tried NethServer, it seems really nice, very polished. I liked OpenVPN part a lot, though I would like to see self-service portal for end users, where they could download ovpn file (or have I missed it?)
I had one problem, not sure if I'm to blame. I wanted to setup server as AD DC, and things went really bad. Installation was stuck in the middle, and I could not stop it or do anything with it. I didn't have time to investigate what happened, but I plan to do it later. -
@triple9 I gave setting up an AD DC on Nethserver a shot tonight myself. Had some issues right off the bat. From the documentation page:
Samba machine needs an IP address in a green network, different from the machine one. It also requires a bridge on the green interface. If needed, this bridge is created automatically.
I could do one manually on CentOS with less hassle than this
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@travisdh1 I can't get your point, you're able to setup a Samba4 DC on CentOS, managed by webinterface with one click?
@triple9 did you check your connectivity? Check the log to look up some errors
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@alefattorini the problems started when I tried to add bridge. Server lost connectivity, and I had to remove bridge manually to get it back online. I'll try with fresh install and see if it happens again.
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@alefattorini what's more funny, I could update system, and perform other tasks. But AD DC installation was stuck at nearly 50% and would not move from that point
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@alefattorini said in Did you ever try NethServer ?:
@travisdh1 I can't get your point, you're able to setup a Samba4 DC on CentOS, managed by webinterface with one click?
I've not had luck getting that working on NethServer either. I ran into the bridge problem, now into this one:
What's the reason for the green interface requirement? This seems like an unnecessary complication, there should never be any interface except the green interface on a server. What assumption is being made here?
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@triple9 said in Did you ever try NethServer ?:
where they could download ovpn file (or have I missed it?)
You're right, we have to improve that part enabling users to download config file independently
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Giving this bit a try now. The bridging bit, I think, should either be removed or done transparently as part of a base setup rather than having users be faced with it later. It's confusing. Even as a senior engineer on both Linux and Windows, I'm unclear why this is needed or even a good idea. If it is going to be required, I think the target audience should not be faced with it as a choice. Make the first interface green, and make it a bridge if you need - but keep it automatic.
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I'm sorry for that guys, where are you running NethServer? VPS?
@scottalanmiller said in Did you ever try NethServer ?:
What's the reason for the green interface requirement? This seems like an unnecessary complication, there should never be any interface except the green interface on a server. What assumption is being made here?
Here we tried to answer all the questions about samba container.
http://community.nethserver.org/t/i-still-dont-get-why-samba-has-to-be-run-in-a-container/4878
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@alefattorini said in Did you ever try NethServer ?:
I'm sorry for that guys, where are you running NethServer? VPS?
@scottalanmiller said in Did you ever try NethServer ?:
What's the reason for the green interface requirement? This seems like an unnecessary complication, there should never be any interface except the green interface on a server. What assumption is being made here?
Here we tried to answer all the questions about samba container.
http://community.nethserver.org/t/i-still-dont-get-why-samba-has-to-be-run-in-a-container/4878
Suggestions are welcome!Ah, I see, the bridge is to support the container? Then that makes sense, but my "you need to automate that" part still remains. Maybe notify the user in a "just so you know" way, but don't make them be involved. Your target audience is scared of Linux and doesn't know what a bridge is.
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Quote from the above link:
The default file server in Samba 4.0 is our smbd file server from Samba
3.x, simply updated with the latest work from that line of
development.No matter if you are running an AD DC, or a file server as a member
server, we use the same code for file server operations. However, some
support infrastructure varies between the operating modes, and some
options are forced on in the AD DC, so as to emulate NT ACLs in the way
we must for the SYSVOL share. We also use a different winbind
implementation.For smaller sites, where there is just one server, using the AD DC as
the file server is perfectly fine and supported. It will work well.For other (generally larger) sites, the knowledge that the file server
and DC can be configured, upgraded and replicated independently will be
far more important, and so follow our advise to separate these roles.
Andrew Bartlett
