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    • Mike DavisM
      Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
      last edited by Mike Davis

      @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

      That's just a ring group with a direct dial button assigned. Nothing weird at all.

      Is there a way to have it ring different than a normal call coming in to the ring group?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @Mike Davis
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        @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

        @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

        That's just a ring group with a direct dial button assigned. Nothing weird at all.

        Is there a way to have it ring different than a normal call coming in to the ring group?

        Most certainly, you can configure a ring group with a custom ring.

        Of course, the phone in this room will be ringing. So it might upset the creeper more.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

          @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

          @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

          That's just a ring group with a direct dial button assigned. Nothing weird at all.

          Is there a way to have it ring different than a normal call coming in to the ring group?

          Most certainly, you can configure a ring group with a custom ring.

          Of course, the phone in this room will be ringing. So it might upset the creeper more.

          Exactly this would not be a silent alarm or panic button this would just be your phone suddenly calling a bunch of other phones

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
            last edited by

            @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

            @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

            That's just a ring group with a direct dial button assigned. Nothing weird at all.

            Is there a way to have it ring different than a normal call coming in to the ring group?

            Sure, just set a different ring for that number.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              So from this topic here you might be able to add one of these to dial the ring group.

              Not sure how exactly... still investigating. This would remove the ring-back, and possible still call the group or send a message.

              So might be worth a look...

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                Ah... I see what these devices can do, they can send an SMS message among other business integrations.

                So just hide it under a desk or somewhere not so obvious and you'd have a "panic" button.

                "HTTP(S), REST API, IFTTT, Zapier, email, SMS, social media, green (positive result), red (negative result) and more."

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by JaredBusch

                  @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

                  That's just a ring group with a direct dial button assigned. Nothing weird at all.

                  Very much NOT this. This would be immediately known to everyone in the room as the phone would begin ringing. Said person causing the uncomfortableness would then know something has happened and could turn violent or some or suicidal or who knows.

                  This type of situation requires a SILENT event to happen in the room.

                  With FreePBX and a Yealink phone I would build a button to use use the API in Asterisk.

                  I have never been tasked to set this up so it is untested by me.

                  1. make sure you can do a dial via URL on your PBX
                    • Here is an old Elastix example: http://striker24x7.blogspot.com/2012/08/click-to-dial-or-php-api-to-dial-from.html
                  2. setup an XML XML Brower with a click to dial as the target
                    • Yealink Instructions: http://yealink.com/Upload/T4X/GA/Yealink_SIP-T4X_IP_Phones_XML_Browser_Developer's_Guide_V71_150.pdf
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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in panic button for IP phone:

                    @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

                    That's just a ring group with a direct dial button assigned. Nothing weird at all.

                    Very much NOT this. This would be immediately known to everyone in the room as the phone would begin ringing. Said person causing the uncomfortableness would then know something has happened and could turn violent or some or suicidal or who knows.

                    I'm not saying it is a good idea, but his request was for a bunch of phones to start ringing.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in panic button for IP phone:

                      This type of situation requires a SILENT event to happen in the room.

                      Might be some distance away, wouldn't necessarily be audible in the patient room.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

                        @JaredBusch said in panic button for IP phone:

                        This type of situation requires a SILENT event to happen in the room.

                        Might be some distance away, wouldn't necessarily be audible in the patient room.

                        No. When you push a speed dial on your phone , you immediately hear ringing locally on the speaker phone.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in panic button for IP phone:

                          @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

                          @JaredBusch said in panic button for IP phone:

                          This type of situation requires a SILENT event to happen in the room.

                          Might be some distance away, wouldn't necessarily be audible in the patient room.

                          No. When you push a speed dial on your phone , you immediately hear ringing locally on the speaker phone.

                          OH! Yeah, that's a problem.

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                          • KellyK
                            Kelly
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                            ARDUINO ALL THE THINGS!!!!

                            http://www.instructables.com/id/Desk-Panic-Button/?ALLSTEPS

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                            • Mike DavisM
                              Mike Davis @Kelly
                              last edited by

                              @Kelly said in panic button for IP phone:

                              ARDUINO ALL THE THINGS!!!!

                              http://www.instructables.com/id/Desk-Panic-Button/?ALLSTEPS

                              That's a cool project, but not really practical for this job.

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                              • Mike DavisM
                                Mike Davis
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                                Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                                As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @Mike Davis
                                  last edited by DustinB3403

                                  @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                                  Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                                  As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

                                  And this is illegal ("everywhere") this is the 1 party consent laws that have been discussed over and over.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                                    @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                                    Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                                    As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

                                    And this is illegal ("everywhere") this is the 1 party consent laws that have been discussed over and over.

                                    That's for recording, not speaker phones.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                                      @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                                      Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                                      As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

                                      And this is illegal ("everywhere") this is the 1 party consent laws that have been discussed over and over.

                                      That's for recording, not speaker phones.

                                      Consent laws still apply (invasion of privary)

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                                        @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                                        Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                                        As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

                                        And this is illegal ("everywhere") this is the 1 party consent laws that have been discussed over and over.

                                        That's for recording, not speaker phones.

                                        Consent laws still apply (invasion of privary)

                                        Not sure they do...

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @Mike Davis
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                                          @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                                          Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                                          As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

                                          Mitel has something like this, but different.

                                          You can have extensions set to auto answer - if you call it from anywhere internal, it just autoanswers. I think they do have a dial code to allow auto answer as well.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                                            @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                                            Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                                            As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

                                            And this is illegal ("everywhere") this is the 1 party consent laws that have been discussed over and over.

                                            That's for recording, not speaker phones.

                                            Consent laws still apply (invasion of privary)

                                            I've not seen one that applies. Not aware of any. That means very little, but nothing we've been discussing relates at all. Recording and listening are totally different under the law. The listener is a full on member of the conversation and the consent is from any of several parties. Consent doesn't apply and the laws we discussed don't apply. Only notification applies and notification was only in the context of recording.

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