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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      huh 5% that just feels very low - but I have no reasoning for it.

      Your roommate likes rush hour? She told you this? You've told her about a better, faster route and she simply chooses to continue using the longer more dangerous way?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Mike Davis
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        @Mike-Davis said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

        Portland has a few car share programs from what I understand, and I think they make a lot of sense. They are private (not run by a municipality) which makes them competitive and innovative. I think they hold a lot of promise for certain parts of the country.

        The thing that makes it viable is you need to have lots of people traveling between two points so that you can run more efficient public transportation for the long leg then just use the car for the last mile.

        I mainly suggested the municipality solution to get the technology out to everyone. If the tech is freely available then private sector could pull it off, as long as the government gets out of the way, doesn't allow monopolies, like the problem we have with ISPs.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

          huh 5% that just feels very low - but I have no reasoning for it.

          Your roommate likes rush hour? She told you this? You've told her about a better, faster route and she simply chooses to continue using the longer more dangerous way?

          I told her and she avoids it, she schedules everything around driving at the worst moment of the day, and takes the worst route. Whenever someone picks her up from work, they take a different route that takes half the miles, half the time.

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          • PSX_DefectorP
            PSX_Defector @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

            You wouldn't have to worry about a creepy driver either in this case.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @PSX_Defector
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              @PSX_Defector said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

              @DustinB3403 said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

              You wouldn't have to worry about a creepy driver either in this case.

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              That's part of the fun, though.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                If you want to know what will cause self driving cars to become the law...

                http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38373867

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller Yeah driver controlled wrecks will force autonomous drivers, but it will be a very long time until all of the current fleet of existing cars will be gone from the roads entirely.

                  So I understand what you mean, human drivers (and actions) will force humans globally to completely be gone with the common car in favor of autonomous cars.

                  The trouble will be that many people will insist on archaic approaches (driving them selves)

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                  • DustinB3403D
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                    Another example of this would be the attack in Paris where the terrorist struck, driving a large truck through the crowd of people.

                    Obviously if you can't get the vehicle to drive through the crowd you have to come up with some other attack method, which would likely involve guns.

                    But at least some people might have a chance to run when they hear gun fire. . . maybe.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                      Another example of this would be the attack in Paris where the terrorist struck, driving a large truck through the crowd of people.

                      Obviously if you can't get the vehicle to drive through the crowd you have to come up with some other attach method, which would likely involve guns.

                      But at least some people might have a chance to run when they hear gun fire. . . maybe.

                      I disagree. but perhaps - I have no idea how easy it is to get guns in Europe.. clearly getting a car is much easier... but I'm guessing there are things that are easier than guns, yet harder than cars...

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender Well I agree, there is probably something, but if guns were to be used, they would likely be purchased illegally. Or from the black market.

                        So what could be as lethal as a gun, and more easily attained than a car? I suppose one could try to mix chemicals to make some kind of poison but how wide spread an area could that affect?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                          The trouble will be that many people will insist on archaic approaches (driving them selves)

                          That's what police are for. People used to just fly themselves too, not so much any longer.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                            The trouble will be that many people will insist on archaic approaches (driving them selves)

                            That's what police are for. People used to just fly themselves too, not so much any longer.

                            I don't disagree, that police will have new responsibilities. My point was more towards the fact that people will fight tooth and nail to still allow driver operated vehicles.

                            Even though the evidence shows that humans suck at driving.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                              @Dashrender Well I agree, there is probably something, but if guns were to be used, they would likely be purchased illegally. Or from the black market.

                              So what could be as lethal as a gun, and more easily attained than a car? I suppose one could try to mix chemicals to make some kind of poison but how wide spread an area could that affect?

                              I was thinking of things like pipe bombs.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                                The trouble will be that many people will insist on archaic approaches (driving them selves)

                                That's what police are for. People used to just fly themselves too, not so much any longer.

                                I don't disagree, that police will have new responsibilities. My point was more towards the fact that people will fight tooth and nail to still allow driver operated vehicles.

                                Even though the evidence shows that humans suck at driving.

                                That's what laws are for. The laws will ultimately say no non-self driving vehicles on the general road ways - or any non private roadway.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Trump appoints Kalanick and Musk to committee:

                                  The trouble will be that many people will insist on archaic approaches (driving them selves)

                                  That's what police are for. People used to just fly themselves too, not so much any longer.

                                  I don't disagree, that police will have new responsibilities. My point was more towards the fact that people will fight tooth and nail to still allow driver operated vehicles.

                                  Even though the evidence shows that humans suck at driving.

                                  That's what laws are for. The laws will ultimately say no self driving vehicles on the general road ways - or any non private roadway.

                                  You sure the laws will so "no self driving vehicles"?

                                  😛

                                  I get what you mean, just wanted to poke fun.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    Doh!

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