PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.
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Hey, finally this thread got around to convincing the OP to move data off the local machines!
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@BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Hey, finally this thread got around to convincing the OP to move data off the local machines!
Sometimes we get distracted.
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@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
May not be.
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@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?
Yeah I mentioned.
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@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?
Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.
I agree with that.
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@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Let's get back to to Willard's question.
@BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Hey why hasn't anyone tried talking the OP out of doing this? You know, the whole "no data on the PC" thing?
Can we move to a scenario where there is no local data? Does the AutoDesk software allow for the local caching of CAD drawings as Dustin mentioned thereby removing the performance issues of network storage? Is this acceptable to the OP? If so, does desktop based backup still need to happen?
I can understand how easy it would be for me and saves cost too if users can do things from file server, and I just need to bother about backing up from one location.
The point here is performance, which is not acceptable for end users, as it's their production software.
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@BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Hey, finally this thread got around to convincing the OP to move data off the local machines!
IMO Convincing power matters a lot when you are trying to explain technical things to your non-technical manager
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@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Hey, finally this thread got around to convincing the OP to move data off the local machines!
Sometimes we get distracted.
But got the chance to understand different point of views
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@openit Sorry for the delayed reply by the way
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@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Let's get back to to Willard's question.
@BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Hey why hasn't anyone tried talking the OP out of doing this? You know, the whole "no data on the PC" thing?
Can we move to a scenario where there is no local data? Does the AutoDesk software allow for the local caching of CAD drawings as Dustin mentioned thereby removing the performance issues of network storage? Is this acceptable to the OP? If so, does desktop based backup still need to happen?
I can understand how easy it would be for me and saves cost too if users can do things from file server, and I just need to bother about backing up from one location.
The point here is performance, which is not acceptable for end users, as it's their production software.
What kind of data is it that it needs local performance?
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@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Let's get back to to Willard's question.
@BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Hey why hasn't anyone tried talking the OP out of doing this? You know, the whole "no data on the PC" thing?
Can we move to a scenario where there is no local data? Does the AutoDesk software allow for the local caching of CAD drawings as Dustin mentioned thereby removing the performance issues of network storage? Is this acceptable to the OP? If so, does desktop based backup still need to happen?
I can understand how easy it would be for me and saves cost too if users can do things from file server, and I just need to bother about backing up from one location.
The point here is performance, which is not acceptable for end users, as it's their production software.
If you look higher in the threat we talk about how some CAD programs do a local cache, but still save the real file on the server. That should solve your performance issue.
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@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Let's get back to to Willard's question.
@BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Hey why hasn't anyone tried talking the OP out of doing this? You know, the whole "no data on the PC" thing?
Can we move to a scenario where there is no local data? Does the AutoDesk software allow for the local caching of CAD drawings as Dustin mentioned thereby removing the performance issues of network storage? Is this acceptable to the OP? If so, does desktop based backup still need to happen?
I can understand how easy it would be for me and saves cost too if users can do things from file server, and I just need to bother about backing up from one location.
The point here is performance, which is not acceptable for end users, as it's their production software.
What kind of data is it that it needs local performance?
Performance issue is about, File is on File Server VS local. I have tested with users by working directly on File Server, the user is getting annoyed to work, it depends on what is the CAD file size too, usually our users have larger files.
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@openit Maybe I am really getting convinced about idea of getting all important files onto File Server and bother about single location.
Now I am thinking that, if user cannot work directly on file server, at least we can force them to copy the important data to file server at the end of the day, so not copied, no backup. But issue is about everyday they need to overwrite the files with the updated ones ?
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@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit Maybe I am really getting convinced about idea of getting all important files onto File Server and bother about single location.
Now I am thinking that, if user cannot work directly on file server, at least we can force them to copy the important data to file server at the end of the day, so not copied, no backup. But issue is about everyday they need to overwrite the files with the updated ones ?
I think you are missing a huge point here made by Dustin.
Your CAD software might do the copy replace for you. I.em you have nothing to worry about unless you are trying to load a file from the server for the first time.
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@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Let's get back to to Willard's question.
@BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Hey why hasn't anyone tried talking the OP out of doing this? You know, the whole "no data on the PC" thing?
Can we move to a scenario where there is no local data? Does the AutoDesk software allow for the local caching of CAD drawings as Dustin mentioned thereby removing the performance issues of network storage? Is this acceptable to the OP? If so, does desktop based backup still need to happen?
I can understand how easy it would be for me and saves cost too if users can do things from file server, and I just need to bother about backing up from one location.
The point here is performance, which is not acceptable for end users, as it's their production software.
What kind of data is it that it needs local performance?
Performance issue is about, File is on File Server VS local. I have tested with users by working directly on File Server, the user is getting annoyed to work, it depends on what is the CAD file size too, usually our users have larger files.
CAD is often a challenge. Not many good options.
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@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit Maybe I am really getting convinced about idea of getting all important files onto File Server and bother about single location.
Now I am thinking that, if user cannot work directly on file server, at least we can force them to copy the important data to file server at the end of the day, so not copied, no backup. But issue is about everyday they need to overwrite the files with the updated ones ?
Yes OR maybe work with something like NextCloud where it syncs the file but only AFTER it has been saved locally. So local performance with immediate "send to server." Have not tested this with CAD files specifically. But I don't see why it would be a problem.
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Which CAD software are we talking about again?
Every single one that I've worked with had it's own version control built in, but would often cost extra for the licensing. You setup a server with the version control software for everyone to use. The workflow is then open V.C.S. -> checkout the file to be changed/add new file -> make changes -> save changes locally -> login to V.C.S. and check in the new version. Most of them would keep previous versions of files as well, and log who checked out each file (mostly so the next person who works on the file can go track them down when someone doesn't do the final step.) I'd say stick with the built-in tool chain.
