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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

      @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

      @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

      Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

      Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

      Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

      I think so, but that alone certainly doesn't suggest that a domain is warranted.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

        @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

        @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

        @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

        Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

        Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

        Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

        Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.

        Which you can do without a domain.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

          @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

          @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

          @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

          @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

          Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

          Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

          Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

          Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.

          While I don't disagree that a backup solution is best, I would argue that by implementing a backup solution without a domain in this case is only going to prolong this task, and make things more difficult.

          Why, what does the domain realistically have to do with the backups?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

            @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

            @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

            @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

            @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

            @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

            Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

            Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

            Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

            Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.

            While I don't disagree that a backup solution is best, I would argue that by implementing a backup solution without a domain in this case is only going to prolong this task, and make things more difficult.

            Why, what does the domain realistically have to do with the backups?

            Having the domain would simplify the credentials management needed, the setup needed for the backup and restore process, it would make user administration easier.

            Sure he could use a solution like PDQ Deploy to push the agent to the clients, and possibly even configuration files if any was needed.

            (idk to early in the morning to think about this)

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

              @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

              @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

              @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

              @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

              @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

              @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

              Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

              Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

              Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

              Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.

              While I don't disagree that a backup solution is best, I would argue that by implementing a backup solution without a domain in this case is only going to prolong this task, and make things more difficult.

              Why, what does the domain realistically have to do with the backups?

              Having the domain would simplify the credentials management needed, the setup needed for the backup and restore process, it would make user administration easier.

              Sure he could use a solution like PDQ Deploy to push the agent to the clients, and possibly even configuration files if any was needed.

              (idk to early in the morning to think about this)

              I believe he already said he has an admin username / pw that is the same across all the machines.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                @dafyre said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

                Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

                Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

                Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.

                While I don't disagree that a backup solution is best, I would argue that by implementing a backup solution without a domain in this case is only going to prolong this task, and make things more difficult.

                Why, what does the domain realistically have to do with the backups?

                Having the domain would simplify the credentials management needed, the setup needed for the backup and restore process, it would make user administration easier.

                Sure he could use a solution like PDQ Deploy to push the agent to the clients, and possibly even configuration files if any was needed.

                (idk to early in the morning to think about this)

                I believe he already said he has an admin username / pw that is the same across all the machines.

                He did, this I know and agree would be usable for the purposes of setting up a backup. What this also is, is a security hole that can be easily be taken advantage of. (I've said why above somewhere)

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  Let's get back to to Willard's question.

                  @BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                  Hey why hasn't anyone tried talking the OP out of doing this? You know, the whole "no data on the PC" thing?

                  Can we move to a scenario where there is no local data? Does the AutoDesk software allow for the local caching of CAD drawings as Dustin mentioned thereby removing the performance issues of network storage? Is this acceptable to the OP? If so, does desktop based backup still need to happen?

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    Hey, finally this thread got around to convincing the OP to move data off the local machines! 🙂

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      @BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                      Hey, finally this thread got around to convincing the OP to move data off the local machines! 🙂

                      Sometimes we get distracted.

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                      • openitO
                        openit @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                        @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                        Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

                        Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

                        May not be.

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                        • openitO
                          openit @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                          @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                          @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                          Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

                          Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

                          Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

                          Yeah I mentioned.

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                          • openitO
                            openit @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                            @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                            @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                            @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                            Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

                            Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

                            Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

                            Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.

                            I agree with that.

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                            • openitO
                              openit @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                              Let's get back to to Willard's question.

                              @BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                              Hey why hasn't anyone tried talking the OP out of doing this? You know, the whole "no data on the PC" thing?

                              Can we move to a scenario where there is no local data? Does the AutoDesk software allow for the local caching of CAD drawings as Dustin mentioned thereby removing the performance issues of network storage? Is this acceptable to the OP? If so, does desktop based backup still need to happen?

                              I can understand how easy it would be for me and saves cost too if users can do things from file server, and I just need to bother about backing up from one location.

                              The point here is performance, which is not acceptable for end users, as it's their production software.

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                              • openitO
                                openit @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                Hey, finally this thread got around to convincing the OP to move data off the local machines! 🙂

                                IMO Convincing power matters a lot when you are trying to explain technical things to your non-technical manager 🙂 🙂

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                                • openitO
                                  openit @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                  @BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                  Hey, finally this thread got around to convincing the OP to move data off the local machines! 🙂

                                  Sometimes we get distracted.

                                  But got the chance to understand different point of views 🙂

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                                  • openitO
                                    openit @openit
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                                    @openit Sorry for the delayed reply by the way 😞

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @openit
                                      last edited by

                                      @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                      @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                      Let's get back to to Willard's question.

                                      @BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                      Hey why hasn't anyone tried talking the OP out of doing this? You know, the whole "no data on the PC" thing?

                                      Can we move to a scenario where there is no local data? Does the AutoDesk software allow for the local caching of CAD drawings as Dustin mentioned thereby removing the performance issues of network storage? Is this acceptable to the OP? If so, does desktop based backup still need to happen?

                                      I can understand how easy it would be for me and saves cost too if users can do things from file server, and I just need to bother about backing up from one location.

                                      The point here is performance, which is not acceptable for end users, as it's their production software.

                                      What kind of data is it that it needs local performance?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @openit
                                        last edited by

                                        @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                        @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                        Let's get back to to Willard's question.

                                        @BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                        Hey why hasn't anyone tried talking the OP out of doing this? You know, the whole "no data on the PC" thing?

                                        Can we move to a scenario where there is no local data? Does the AutoDesk software allow for the local caching of CAD drawings as Dustin mentioned thereby removing the performance issues of network storage? Is this acceptable to the OP? If so, does desktop based backup still need to happen?

                                        I can understand how easy it would be for me and saves cost too if users can do things from file server, and I just need to bother about backing up from one location.

                                        The point here is performance, which is not acceptable for end users, as it's their production software.

                                        If you look higher in the threat we talk about how some CAD programs do a local cache, but still save the real file on the server. That should solve your performance issue.

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                                        • openitO
                                          openit @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                          @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                          @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                          Let's get back to to Willard's question.

                                          @BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                          Hey why hasn't anyone tried talking the OP out of doing this? You know, the whole "no data on the PC" thing?

                                          Can we move to a scenario where there is no local data? Does the AutoDesk software allow for the local caching of CAD drawings as Dustin mentioned thereby removing the performance issues of network storage? Is this acceptable to the OP? If so, does desktop based backup still need to happen?

                                          I can understand how easy it would be for me and saves cost too if users can do things from file server, and I just need to bother about backing up from one location.

                                          The point here is performance, which is not acceptable for end users, as it's their production software.

                                          What kind of data is it that it needs local performance?

                                          Performance issue is about, File is on File Server VS local. I have tested with users by working directly on File Server, the user is getting annoyed to work, it depends on what is the CAD file size too, usually our users have larger files.

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                                          • openitO
                                            openit @openit
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                                            @openit Maybe I am really getting convinced about idea of getting all important files onto File Server and bother about single location.

                                            Now I am thinking that, if user cannot work directly on file server, at least we can force them to copy the important data to file server at the end of the day, so not copied, no backup. But issue is about everyday they need to overwrite the files with the updated ones ?

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