PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.
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@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@dafyre @DustinB3403 @Dashrender
Cad we are using is from AutoDesk.
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Moving to linux could be an option, even Autodesk is supported for linux (say CentOS), that's very big deal, because user knows Windows and we, IT have little knowledge on Linux. To save money I never want to do that, as I learnt from different scenarios and from forums, at the end of the IT will fallen into problems, Management never sees ( if Manager is from IT background, then maybe exceptional case) how many bucks you saved by using free or open source, but loss or downtime, so plans about Linux.
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Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.
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For sure, I need to push the task of bringing the network under domain.
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On one hand, by seeing issues with Ransomware, I have started to think about Backup for local pc data and other big issue I need to think about is "Users security awareness". And if I plan to migrate to Linux, then I would be gone
LOL
Ransomware does exist on Linux.
Yes, but none that is a risk yet. It exists only as a theoretical, nothing that affects real world production systems yet.
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@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
- Moving to linux could be an option, even Autodesk is supported for linux (say CentOS), that's very big deal, because user knows Windows and we, IT have little knowledge on Linux. To save money I never want to do that, as I learnt from different scenarios and from forums, at the end of the IT will fallen into problems, Management never sees ( if Manager is from IT background, then maybe exceptional case) how many bucks you saved by using free or open source, but loss or downtime, so plans about Linux.
If management never sees the cost savings... what are they doing as managers? This is quite the statement about management that they are not looking at the finances. What the heck are they even doing then?
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@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
- Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.
Why is it difficult to troubleshoot?
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@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Since AutoDesk is supported on Redhat and CentOS you could go completely open source, unsupported. But this isn't what anyone here is recommending.
We are suggesting you consider using Redhat (which has support) and setup a linux domain. This way you are still supported in all venues that the business IT needs.
Actually, he'd be MORE supported. Windows doesn't come with support at all. RHEL comes with incredible support.
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@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
- Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.
Why is it difficult to troubleshoot?
his lack of personal experience is my guess.
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@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
- Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.
Why is it difficult to troubleshoot?
his lack of personal experience is my guess.
RHEL support handles that for you
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@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
- Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.
Why is it difficult to troubleshoot?
his lack of personal experience is my guess.
RHEL support handles that for you
If you want to maintain that support. Then sure, what's the cost per desktop for that per year?
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Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
At top, work out on backing up the data things which is the theme of my post, got lots of ideas here, going through solutions mentioned in thread, most welcome for the replies related to backup software as of now
On other hand, I need to spin the Linux on VM or physical to test our production software for future use.
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@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
On other hand, I need to spin the Linux on VM or physical to test our production software for future use.
Always VM, no benefit to physical. Not for production, not for testing.
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@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
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@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?
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@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?
Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.
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@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?
Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.
While I don't disagree that a backup solution is best, I would argue that by implementing a backup solution without a domain in this case is only going to prolong this task, and make things more difficult.
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@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?
I think so, but that alone certainly doesn't suggest that a domain is warranted.
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@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?
Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.
Which you can do without a domain.
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@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?
Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.
While I don't disagree that a backup solution is best, I would argue that by implementing a backup solution without a domain in this case is only going to prolong this task, and make things more difficult.
Why, what does the domain realistically have to do with the backups?
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@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?
Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.
While I don't disagree that a backup solution is best, I would argue that by implementing a backup solution without a domain in this case is only going to prolong this task, and make things more difficult.
Why, what does the domain realistically have to do with the backups?
Having the domain would simplify the credentials management needed, the setup needed for the backup and restore process, it would make user administration easier.
Sure he could use a solution like PDQ Deploy to push the agent to the clients, and possibly even configuration files if any was needed.
(idk to early in the morning to think about this)
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@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?
Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.
While I don't disagree that a backup solution is best, I would argue that by implementing a backup solution without a domain in this case is only going to prolong this task, and make things more difficult.
Why, what does the domain realistically have to do with the backups?
Having the domain would simplify the credentials management needed, the setup needed for the backup and restore process, it would make user administration easier.
Sure he could use a solution like PDQ Deploy to push the agent to the clients, and possibly even configuration files if any was needed.
(idk to early in the morning to think about this)
I believe he already said he has an admin username / pw that is the same across all the machines.
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@dafyre said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
@openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.
Is a domain a significant help in this situation?
Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?
Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.
While I don't disagree that a backup solution is best, I would argue that by implementing a backup solution without a domain in this case is only going to prolong this task, and make things more difficult.
Why, what does the domain realistically have to do with the backups?
Having the domain would simplify the credentials management needed, the setup needed for the backup and restore process, it would make user administration easier.
Sure he could use a solution like PDQ Deploy to push the agent to the clients, and possibly even configuration files if any was needed.
(idk to early in the morning to think about this)
I believe he already said he has an admin username / pw that is the same across all the machines.
He did, this I know and agree would be usable for the purposes of setting up a backup. What this also is, is a security hole that can be easily be taken advantage of. (I've said why above somewhere)
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Let's get back to to Willard's question.
@BRRABill said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:
Hey why hasn't anyone tried talking the OP out of doing this? You know, the whole "no data on the PC" thing?
Can we move to a scenario where there is no local data? Does the AutoDesk software allow for the local caching of CAD drawings as Dustin mentioned thereby removing the performance issues of network storage? Is this acceptable to the OP? If so, does desktop based backup still need to happen?
