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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @openit
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      @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

      @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

      @openit do you have the NAS already? If not, you could build a SAM-SD style box, install your backup solution on that box directly and backup locally.

      I mention this just to make sure those reading this thread are aware that you don't have to have a Server and a NAS when looking at the isolated backup model.

      No, not yet, I got to purchase NAS, I need to plan for software and then I will purchase.

      I am not really sure what's this SAM-SD box ? I guess, running some server on Linux which have good storage and then setup it as Backup server ?

      A SAM-SD is a storage-centric server, nothing more. You can run Windows or Linux on it. But considering that you're looking at needing a server for this task anyhow, why split the task over two boxes, i.e. a server and a NAS, and instead just use an all in one solution.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

        Now here's where I'll point out that Scott will say that we need to consider the business, and make proper business decisions to know if Windows is the right solution for us or not. I think he would say that if the company can't afford Windows Pro, then it really can't afford Windows at all.

        I would definitely say that. That's super cheap.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @openit
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          @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

          @dafyre @DustinB3403 @Dashrender

          Cad we are using is from AutoDesk.

          1. Moving to linux could be an option, even Autodesk is supported for linux (say CentOS), that's very big deal, because user knows Windows and we, IT have little knowledge on Linux. To save money I never want to do that, as I learnt from different scenarios and from forums, at the end of the IT will fallen into problems, Management never sees ( if Manager is from IT background, then maybe exceptional case) how many bucks you saved by using free or open source, but loss or downtime, so plans about Linux.

          2. Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.

          3. For sure, I need to push the task of bringing the network under domain.

          4. On one hand, by seeing issues with Ransomware, I have started to think about Backup for local pc data and other big issue I need to think about is "Users security awareness". And if I plan to migrate to Linux, then I would be gone 🙂 LOL

          The idea of moving to an all linux environment, would be to cut out the Microsoft Tax, and to really simplify the management of the business IT needs.

          Since AutoDesk is supported on Redhat and CentOS you could go completely open source, unsupported. But this isn't what anyone here is recommending.

          We are suggesting you consider using Redhat (which has support) and setup a linux domain. This way you are still supported in all venues that the business IT needs.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            I don't know why.. this just makes me happy..

            https://i.imgur.com/BaahQoq.png

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

              @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

              @dafyre @DustinB3403 @Dashrender

              Cad we are using is from AutoDesk.

              1. Moving to linux could be an option, even Autodesk is supported for linux (say CentOS), that's very big deal, because user knows Windows and we, IT have little knowledge on Linux. To save money I never want to do that, as I learnt from different scenarios and from forums, at the end of the IT will fallen into problems, Management never sees ( if Manager is from IT background, then maybe exceptional case) how many bucks you saved by using free or open source, but loss or downtime, so plans about Linux.

              2. Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.

              3. For sure, I need to push the task of bringing the network under domain.

              4. On one hand, by seeing issues with Ransomware, I have started to think about Backup for local pc data and other big issue I need to think about is "Users security awareness". And if I plan to migrate to Linux, then I would be gone 🙂 LOL

              The idea of moving to an all linux environment, would be to cut out the Microsoft Tax, and to really simplify the management of the business IT needs.

              Since AutoDesk is supported on Redhat and CentOS you could go completely open source, unsupported. But this isn't what anyone here is recommending.

              We are suggesting you consider using Redhat (which has support) and setup a linux domain. This way you are still supported in all venues that the business IT needs.

              I'm not suggesting that. The Redhat fees probably aren't worth it for his company. Instead, he should have a consultant on speed dial to help with any issues he comes up against. Use Redhat OS if he wants, it's free, but using CentOS would be just as good to.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                @dafyre @DustinB3403 @Dashrender

                Cad we are using is from AutoDesk.

                1. Moving to linux could be an option, even Autodesk is supported for linux (say CentOS), that's very big deal, because user knows Windows and we, IT have little knowledge on Linux. To save money I never want to do that, as I learnt from different scenarios and from forums, at the end of the IT will fallen into problems, Management never sees ( if Manager is from IT background, then maybe exceptional case) how many bucks you saved by using free or open source, but loss or downtime, so plans about Linux.

                2. Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.

                3. For sure, I need to push the task of bringing the network under domain.

                4. On one hand, by seeing issues with Ransomware, I have started to think about Backup for local pc data and other big issue I need to think about is "Users security awareness". And if I plan to migrate to Linux, then I would be gone 🙂 LOL

                Ransomware does exist on Linux.

                Yes, but none that is a risk yet. It exists only as a theoretical, nothing that affects real world production systems yet.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @openit
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                  @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                  1. Moving to linux could be an option, even Autodesk is supported for linux (say CentOS), that's very big deal, because user knows Windows and we, IT have little knowledge on Linux. To save money I never want to do that, as I learnt from different scenarios and from forums, at the end of the IT will fallen into problems, Management never sees ( if Manager is from IT background, then maybe exceptional case) how many bucks you saved by using free or open source, but loss or downtime, so plans about Linux.

                  If management never sees the cost savings... what are they doing as managers? This is quite the statement about management that they are not looking at the finances. What the heck are they even doing then?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @openit
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                    @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                    1. Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.

                    Why is it difficult to troubleshoot?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                      Since AutoDesk is supported on Redhat and CentOS you could go completely open source, unsupported. But this isn't what anyone here is recommending.

                      We are suggesting you consider using Redhat (which has support) and setup a linux domain. This way you are still supported in all venues that the business IT needs.

                      Actually, he'd be MORE supported. Windows doesn't come with support at all. RHEL comes with incredible support.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                        @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                        1. Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.

                        Why is it difficult to troubleshoot?

                        his lack of personal experience is my guess.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                          @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                          @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                          1. Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.

                          Why is it difficult to troubleshoot?

                          his lack of personal experience is my guess.

                          RHEL support handles that for you 🙂

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                            @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                            @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                            @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                            1. Even myself, I love opensource software and plays around CentOS, pfsense, Zentyal, and so many. I believe I can set it up properly and get it run, but difficult part is troubleshooting if any issue occurs, so no to Linux as of now at least.

                            Why is it difficult to troubleshoot?

                            his lack of personal experience is my guess.

                            RHEL support handles that for you 🙂

                            If you want to maintain that support. Then sure, what's the cost per desktop for that per year?

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                            • openitO
                              openit @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender @scottalanmiller

                              Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

                              At top, work out on backing up the data things which is the theme of my post, got lots of ideas here, going through solutions mentioned in thread, most welcome for the replies related to backup software as of now 🙂

                              On other hand, I need to spin the Linux on VM or physical to test our production software for future use.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @openit
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                                @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                On other hand, I need to spin the Linux on VM or physical to test our production software for future use.

                                Always VM, no benefit to physical. Not for production, not for testing.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @openit
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                                  @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                  Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

                                  Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                    @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                    Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

                                    Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

                                    Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                      @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                      Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

                                      Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

                                      Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

                                      Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                        last edited by DustinB3403

                                        @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                        @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                        Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

                                        Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

                                        Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

                                        Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.

                                        While I don't disagree that a backup solution is best, I would argue that by implementing a backup solution without a domain in this case is only going to prolong this task, and make things more difficult.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                          @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                          Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

                                          Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

                                          Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

                                          I think so, but that alone certainly doesn't suggest that a domain is warranted.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                            @openit said in PCs Backup software that can isolate backup destination to protect from Ransomware virus.:

                                            Anyways, at my current situation, what I believe to be better is, take the network under domain ASAP.

                                            Is a domain a significant help in this situation?

                                            Didn't @openit say he has over 100 systems?

                                            Centralized backup is the most helpful in the current situation.

                                            Which you can do without a domain.

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