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    Water Closet
    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • Deleted74295D
      Deleted74295 Banned
      last edited by

      That moderator is over zealous.

      I mean look at this:

      0_1477587655679_Moderated.PNG

      I queried it and kept asking if he was serious...he was. He could not see 1 drop of sarcasm in my post.

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      • KellyK
        Kelly
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        Because of the systemic derailment of topics in Virtualization and Storage, they have their own terms, and they are rigorously enforced. For better or for worse, that is what is the standard.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Kelly
          last edited by

          @Kelly said in I can't even:

          Because of the systemic derailment of topics in Virtualization and Storage, they have their own terms, and they are rigorously enforced. For better or for worse, that is what is the standard.

          Well, new as of this week. Storage just put them in. And that they don't match the rest of the site is a bit of a problem as you have to just "know" that there are special terms run independently. If the special terms were valid, why aren't they used in the rest of the site? Clearly there is disagreement as to who is in charge and if the terms are good or bad. They are also, and this is my specific complaint, not easily determined and are 100% at the whim and personal preference of the just a few people.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @Kelly
            last edited by DustinB3403

            @Kelly said in I can't even:

            Because of the systemic derailment of topics in Virtualization and Storage, they have their own terms, and they are rigorously enforced. For better or for worse, that is what is the standard.

            Where are these specific sub-category rules listed? I've never been directed to them to review. I would likely look at them like I do at odd state law, which contradicts federal law.

            "Yep I'm ignoring that one"

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Kelly
              last edited by

              @Kelly said in I can't even:

              Because of the systemic derailment of topics in Virtualization and Storage, they have their own terms,...

              That's one of the issues.... it's not agreed upon that threads are derailed. I've been complaining about the mod in question who made the derailment rules for derailments, in fact. What is and is not a derailment is not a clear thing. Like today, some mod felt that things were derailed, but the OP did not. So which is correct? Everyone has their own opinion as to what constitutes derailment. It's less that the threads there get derailed more than elsewhere, it's more that the mods there have a more aggressive opinion of what is derailment. But it is also that those are discussion areas that are broad, complex and poorly understood in the SMB market so the need for broader thinking and probing is far more important than, say, in an Exchange group where people tend to be deploying in standard, predictable ways that don't put them at risk most of the time.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                last edited by Minion Queen

                @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

                @Kelly said in I can't even:

                Because of the systemic derailment of topics in Virtualization and Storage, they have their own terms, and they are rigorously enforced. For better or for worse, that is what is the standard.

                Where are these specific sub-category rules listed, I've never been directed to them to review. I would likely look at them like I do at odd state law, which contradicts federal law.

                "Yep I'm ignoring that one"

                They are just posts in those groups. They are problematic because responding to a question doesn't mean that you are "hanging out" in that group. For many of us, there really aren't groups. We just answer questions. And what if a questions moves in or out of a group... the rules as to what is good posting changes. In one case, you are providing information that is not allowed. But move it to a different category and not providing that information would be unprofessional and setting someone up for failure. So it's a really weird situation. And how you are supposed to know to read some new rules, by a lone mod, posted as a thread, that don't agree with the SW rules, when responding to any given post ... I have no idea. And it means that with hundreds of unique groups, each is open to make it's own rules now. It's like hundreds of loosely associated communities, now.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  I don't want that to sound like the sub-category rule system is bad. It's just a departure and going to cause confusion and bring some new challenges that I think have not been thought through. But I confirmed it with the powers that be earlier in the week and they confirmed that those groups are allowed to create their own cultures and ecosystems, so it is what it is. But it does mean that certain aspects of IT discussion are not an option there now, only Q&A in those categories. Over time, I suspect more and more will move to this.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                    I don't want that to sound like the sub-category rule system is bad. It's just a departure and going to cause confusion and bring some new challenges that I think have not been thought through. But I confirmed it with the powers that be earlier in the week and they confirmed that those groups are allowed to create their own cultures and ecosystems, so it is what it is. But it does mean that certain aspects of IT discussion are not an option there now, only Q&A in those categories. Over time, I suspect more and more will move to this.

                    So one of the better IT forums just put in place rules that will eventually see the real solutions pushed aside in favor of sales supplied solutions if the example we have today is any indication. Wonder where I could find a good alternative? 😉

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said in I can't even:

                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                      I don't want that to sound like the sub-category rule system is bad. It's just a departure and going to cause confusion and bring some new challenges that I think have not been thought through. But I confirmed it with the powers that be earlier in the week and they confirmed that those groups are allowed to create their own cultures and ecosystems, so it is what it is. But it does mean that certain aspects of IT discussion are not an option there now, only Q&A in those categories. Over time, I suspect more and more will move to this.

                      So one of the better IT forums just put in place rules that will eventually see the real solutions pushed aside in favor of sales supplied solutions if the example we have today is any indication. Wonder where I could find a good alternative? 😉

                      They are very aware that it is a new direction and a lot of people feel that the Q&A approach is more what they want. Nothing wrong with that, but the discussions still need a place to exist. In many ways it's good, SW kind of recognizes that ML is the discussion site and that SF is the Q&A site and SW is going for something in the middle now, adjusting after the market has settled a little.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        RAID 0 and can't afford down time, asking if a NAS is a good backup target.

                        Um... RAID 0 man, even a bad sector and your data is gone. . . .

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          What 2Tb and 1TB drives are best for backup device

                          Um... . . . NAS level drives would be a great place to look, looking at "desktop" or "gaming" lines is just ridiculous and makes no sense.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            Has logged into a ton of servers over several years, and has never signed out. . . . transitioning into a new position and wants to find where he's logged in. . . .

                            WTF

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

                              Has logged into a ton of servers over several years, and has never signed out. . . . transitioning into a new position and wants to find where he's logged in. . . .

                              WTF

                              Gets even better, he's signed into 10-60 servers. . . . and is transitioning to Business Analyst.. . . um fired!

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                Polar opposite of what this topic is for, but god damn thank you for asking!

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  This firewall survey popped back up in my feed today. Still can't believe the amount of money people just throw around, trying to understand why is easy at least.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    Um what. . . .

                                    Needs to know if he should use RAID5 or RAID10 either as a physical or VM. . . . Um what. . .

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                                    • MattSpellerM
                                      MattSpeller @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by MattSpeller

                                      @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

                                      Um what. . . .

                                      Needs to know if he should use RAID5 or RAID10 either as a physical or VM. . . . Um what. . .

                                      I feel like y'all really just put your dicks in the pencil sharpener responding to stuff like that.

                                      Reminds me of self flagellation ceremonies

                                      It's nice to help people but wtf are you going to teach them in a paragraph that will make up for them lacking the experience needed to get that kinda thing right.

                                      https://scottnevinssuicide.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/self-flagellation.jpg

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @MattSpeller
                                        last edited by

                                        @MattSpeller said in I can't even:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

                                        Um what. . . .

                                        Needs to know if he should use RAID5 or RAID10 either as a physical or VM. . . . Um what. . .

                                        I feel like y'all really just put your dicks in the pencil sharpener responding to stuff like that.

                                        Reminds me of self flagellation ceremonies

                                        It's nice to help people but wtf are you going to teach them in a paragraph that will make up for them lacking the experience needed to get that kinda thing right.

                                        The ultimate goal is to make them question what they are doing... Now often times that leads to a lot of discussion about this and that, when they really should be talking about the other...

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @dafyre
                                          last edited by

                                          @dafyre said in I can't even:

                                          @MattSpeller said in I can't even:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

                                          Um what. . . .

                                          Needs to know if he should use RAID5 or RAID10 either as a physical or VM. . . . Um what. . .

                                          I feel like y'all really just put your dicks in the pencil sharpener responding to stuff like that.

                                          Reminds me of self flagellation ceremonies

                                          It's nice to help people but wtf are you going to teach them in a paragraph that will make up for them lacking the experience needed to get that kinda thing right.

                                          The ultimate goal is to make them question what they are doing... Now often times that leads to a lot of discussion about this and that, when they really should be talking about the other...

                                          I get that... but I can't help but think that it's still weaponizing ignorance

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @MattSpeller
                                            last edited by

                                            @MattSpeller said in I can't even:

                                            @dafyre said in I can't even:

                                            @MattSpeller said in I can't even:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

                                            Um what. . . .

                                            Needs to know if he should use RAID5 or RAID10 either as a physical or VM. . . . Um what. . .

                                            I feel like y'all really just put your dicks in the pencil sharpener responding to stuff like that.

                                            Reminds me of self flagellation ceremonies

                                            It's nice to help people but wtf are you going to teach them in a paragraph that will make up for them lacking the experience needed to get that kinda thing right.

                                            The ultimate goal is to make them question what they are doing... Now often times that leads to a lot of discussion about this and that, when they really should be talking about the other...

                                            I get that... but I can't help but think that it's still weaponizing ignorance

                                            I see the point you're going for now, lol. I think you may be on to something there.

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