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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@dbeato said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@dbeato said in I can't even:
@stacksofplates said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@gjacobse said in I can't even:
I just can't....
When Amazon was interviewing me, the police had to be called on their drunked staff out at the bar. So I'm not entirely surprised.
Yup definitely wasn’t impressed with my 6 interviews I had to do with them......
Sounds normal for Amazon, I have a friend that had 4 interviews and then had 4 with Google. He ended up at Google
Oh man, I wouldn't even interview at Google. Amazon wasn't that bad. Lots of interviews, but they did one round on the phone then flew me to Seattle and did a full day of them as it should be. I thought that they handled it well.
My friend loves it at Google, he works with G-Suite.
They are required to say that. They sign an agreement before they interview that they will not disclose the conditions there. So you can never trust any good news that comes out of Google.
If that's true, why don't all companies do that?
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@dbeato said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@dbeato said in I can't even:
@stacksofplates said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@gjacobse said in I can't even:
I just can't....
When Amazon was interviewing me, the police had to be called on their drunked staff out at the bar. So I'm not entirely surprised.
Yup definitely wasn’t impressed with my 6 interviews I had to do with them......
Sounds normal for Amazon, I have a friend that had 4 interviews and then had 4 with Google. He ended up at Google
Oh man, I wouldn't even interview at Google. Amazon wasn't that bad. Lots of interviews, but they did one round on the phone then flew me to Seattle and did a full day of them as it should be. I thought that they handled it well.
My friend loves it at Google, he works with G-Suite.
They are required to say that. They sign an agreement before they interview that they will not disclose the conditions there. So you can never trust any good news that comes out of Google.
Not sure about that but will believe it until proven otherwise.
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@tim_g said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@dbeato said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@dbeato said in I can't even:
@stacksofplates said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@gjacobse said in I can't even:
I just can't....
When Amazon was interviewing me, the police had to be called on their drunked staff out at the bar. So I'm not entirely surprised.
Yup definitely wasn’t impressed with my 6 interviews I had to do with them......
Sounds normal for Amazon, I have a friend that had 4 interviews and then had 4 with Google. He ended up at Google
Oh man, I wouldn't even interview at Google. Amazon wasn't that bad. Lots of interviews, but they did one round on the phone then flew me to Seattle and did a full day of them as it should be. I thought that they handled it well.
My friend loves it at Google, he works with G-Suite.
They are required to say that. They sign an agreement before they interview that they will not disclose the conditions there. So you can never trust any good news that comes out of Google.
If that's true, why don't all companies do that?
Because once you do that, you can't hire the best - the best won't even apply. But for Google, they have a HUGE value in the myth that it is a great place to work and that they do magic things. It's a massive part of their marketing. Very few companies can leverage marking of that nature and gain far more by being able to hire more broadly.
Having worked in the Valley, I don't know anyone that will even interview with Google let alone consider them. Google's focus is hiring college students who don't have experience and know what other businesses are like. But in the area, MS, FB, Amazon, etc. all have better hiring reputations and can attract more senior talent.
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Google has to hire more people, deal with more junior people, have more overhead to everything that they do because they make their hiring processes so bad. It might sound great, why let people complain about working for you, but some people always sneak out and hope that they just won't get caught and talk about it and you pay the price in other areas. I think it only works out for Google because they are unique in doing it. If several other large companies of their size followed suite, you'd find that it would have a nullifying effect and they'd all give up on it.
Transparency is one of the biggest values that people tend to look for in companies. So Google always has to a massive strike against it, big enough that since you can never ask someone an honest opinion about working there that lots of people don't consider it - since word of mouth hiring is one of the biggest ways that hiring happens. Lacking that really hurts Google.
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@dbeato said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@dbeato said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@dbeato said in I can't even:
@stacksofplates said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@gjacobse said in I can't even:
I just can't....
When Amazon was interviewing me, the police had to be called on their drunked staff out at the bar. So I'm not entirely surprised.
Yup definitely wasn’t impressed with my 6 interviews I had to do with them......
Sounds normal for Amazon, I have a friend that had 4 interviews and then had 4 with Google. He ended up at Google
Oh man, I wouldn't even interview at Google. Amazon wasn't that bad. Lots of interviews, but they did one round on the phone then flew me to Seattle and did a full day of them as it should be. I thought that they handled it well.
My friend loves it at Google, he works with G-Suite.
They are required to say that. They sign an agreement before they interview that they will not disclose the conditions there. So you can never trust any good news that comes out of Google.
Not sure about that but will believe it until proven otherwise.
It can't be proven, that's their gamble. You can see why it is effective - their marketing message is the only thing that is allowed out. So people tend to repeat that "everyone says it is great there", as it is all they are allowed to hear. But once you know that it's always filtered, you can't believe any of it. And the rumours are that it's awful.
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It is a rumor I heard years ago.
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@dbeato said in I can't even:
@stacksofplates said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@gjacobse said in I can't even:
I just can't....
When Amazon was interviewing me, the police had to be called on their drunked staff out at the bar. So I'm not entirely surprised.
Yup definitely wasn’t impressed with my 6 interviews I had to do with them......
Sounds normal for Amazon, I have a friend that had 4 interviews and then had 4 with Google. He ended up at Google
It wasn't the number that was the problem. It's how they conducted themselves. The first phone interview was fine. The guy never called for the second. Then after around half an hour I got a call from the girl who scheduled everything in Seattle. She said "sorry he must have been pulled into a meeting or something." Then after a few days the rescheduled it, for the same guy I had on my first interview. So after a few days they realized that wouldn't work and changed who it was. Then I didn't hear anything for around two weeks. On Thursday a new girl from Seattle contacted me about an on site in Chicago. She wanted to know if I could do Tuesday the next week. I said that was fine, and never heard anything back. I called her Friday and never heard back. I finally called my initial recruiter that contacted me on LinkedIn on Monday. She said "she was having email trouble last week"??? So then that girl from Thursday called me at noon on Monday and said my flight would be Monday night. So I flew out Monday night and got to Chicago around 9. Had my interview at 1:30 Tuesday and flew back Tuesday night. So all in all I had 3 phone calls, had to write a 1000 word essay, 4 on site interviews back to back. It was not impressive.
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@stacksofplates said in I can't even:
@dbeato said in I can't even:
@stacksofplates said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@gjacobse said in I can't even:
I just can't....
When Amazon was interviewing me, the police had to be called on their drunked staff out at the bar. So I'm not entirely surprised.
Yup definitely wasn’t impressed with my 6 interviews I had to do with them......
Sounds normal for Amazon, I have a friend that had 4 interviews and then had 4 with Google. He ended up at Google
It wasn't the number that was the problem. It's how they conducted themselves. The first phone interview was fine. The guy never called for the second. Then after around half an hour I got a call from the girl who scheduled everything in Seattle. She said "sorry he must have been pulled into a meeting or something." Then after a few days the rescheduled it, for the same guy I had on my first interview. So after a few days they realized that wouldn't work and changed who it was. Then I didn't hear anything for around two weeks. On Thursday a new girl from Seattle contacted me about an on site in Chicago. She wanted to know if I could do Tuesday the next week. I said that was fine, and never heard anything back. I called her Friday and never heard back. I finally called my initial recruiter that contacted me on LinkedIn on Monday. She said "she was having email trouble last week"??? So then that girl from Thursday called me at noon on Monday and said my flight would be Monday night. So I flew out Monday night and got to Chicago around 9. Had my interview at 1:30 Tuesday and flew back Tuesday night. So all in all I had 3 phone calls, had to write a 1000 word essay, 4 on site interviews back to back. It was not impressive.
Mine was way better. Solid initial recruiter (internal), solid phone interview, immediate flight scheduled to Seattle, then full day 8am - 3pm back to back interviews, then a weekend to get to know Seattle, then a flight home. The interviews were so so, definitely not great, but not too bad.
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People actually going through a complex decision process between IMAP and POP. What century is this?
I predict a slew of POP related questions coming in the next month as per the pattern.
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
People actually going through a complex decision process between IMAP and POP. What century is this?
I predict a slew of POP related questions coming in the next month as per the pattern.
Is this a systematic/cyclical pattern (such as RAID, POP vs. IMAP, best AV, to virtualize or not to virtualize, back to RAID, etc) or are you seeing patterns from other sources?
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@nerdydad said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
People actually going through a complex decision process between IMAP and POP. What century is this?
I predict a slew of POP related questions coming in the next month as per the pattern.
Is this a systematic/cyclical pattern (such as RAID, POP vs. IMAP, best AV, to virtualize or not to virtualize, back to RAID, etc) or are you seeing patterns from other sources?
This is exactly the kind of question that I often see then followed by several more nearly identical ones. No pattern shown on this topic yet, I'm just predicting that there will be.
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
I was going to tell him this, but I can't log in to SW:
scottwilliams14 wrote:
I'm looking to setup a VMWare ESXI home lab so I can use it to follow along with some courses. I was thinking something that can handle 2-3 virtual machines. Any suggestions?https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/virtuallabs works very well until you can get the hardware set up.
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I've always signed in with my LinkedIn account, and now I don't see that option anywhere... owell.
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@tim_g said in I can't even:
I've always signed in with my LinkedIn account, and now I don't see that option anywhere... owell.
Got to https://community.spiceworks.com and press login and then this:
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Ah ha, so every once in a while you get someone who uses Vmware in the SMB and claims it is a good deal. This one came right out and basically just admitted to hiding the alternatives from his customers (lying to them about cost savings) to trick them. That's how Vmware happens in the SMB (and in SW.)
And in SMB setups, who needs hypervisor support all of the time? This stuff just works.
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@dbeato Yes, but this is what I see...
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
(lying to them about cost savings) to trick them. That's how Vmware happens in the SMB (and in SW.)
yeah pretty much exactly.
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@tim_g said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
(lying to them about cost savings) to trick them. That's how Vmware happens in the SMB (and in SW.)
yeah pretty much exactly.
I cannot believe how often on SW people come out and seem to actually brag about how they screw over their clients. He actually presents his strategy here for taking suckers, making something that is overly expensive look feasible, and hide the truth from them. And he thinks that posting that unethical strategy publicly is actually good?
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Though, I did get a good tingly feeling when I seen that my VPS host is using RedHat... it makes me believe that they are getting good support for their back-end setup.
I've never worked for a VPS host before, so my feeling may be wrong. But the idea seems nice anyways.
