How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app
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No no, I may have said something confusing.
The Windows backup VHD's are not on the SR for the XS VHD's.
So to attach a VHD to the VM he'd have to create a VM and then attach that VHD to the VM from within Windows.
He created a backup location to a NAS (for windows backup) which was also the same directory for his ISO's.
So they are on an SR for ISO's (obviously not the same thing).
Anyways, what we tried yesterday was from a VM to mount the VHD that he had from backup and it was blank (at least for what he was looking for).
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@DustinB3403 said
So to attach a VHD to the VM he'd have to create a VM and then attach that VHD to the VM from within Windows.
Why wouldn't you import the VHD through XC, then create a VM and attach the imported VHD?
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@BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@DustinB3403 said
So to attach a VHD to the VM he'd have to create a VM and then attach that VHD to the VM from within Windows.
Why wouldn't you import the VHD through XC, then create a VM and attach the imported VHD?
Tried that as well, he doesn't have enough capacity on his VM SR.
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@DustinB3403 said
Tried that as well, he doesn't have enough capacity on his VM SR.
Can you shrink the VHD externally and then maybe it will fit.
Sheesh, what a process!
But, if there isn't enough room, how is the VM going to run at all?
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@BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@DustinB3403 said
But, if there isn't enough room, how is the VM going to run at all?
Exactly...
Which is why if he has the data now (for whatever reason) he should just copy the data, and build a new VM, install the application, and import the data.
No point in dragging it out trying to get it to work. He's been down for days now from what I understand.
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Success I got it working
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Congrats. And thanks to @DustinB3403 for jumping in to help.
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its syncing back with my sensors! With that said I CAN"T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOU HELP! But I can thank you with beer @ Spiceworld if I can make it this year!!!!
I'm letting the database rebuild now about 1-2 months of data and I'm back in business.
I have no friggin clue why we couldn't see the data yesterday. Just for shits and giggles, I created another VM, used the windows 7 iso and booted, and did the repair option and I pointed to the back up, it still won't let me load it. I have no clue why.
But none the less, I am able to attach the VHD from the windows backup, and see my actual system image and pull my individual files from my database.
My app is a security system
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I thank Dustin big time he has helped me out tremendously!
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@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
its syncing back with my sensors! With that said I CAN"T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOU HELP! But I can thank you with beer @ Spiceworld if I can make it this year!!!!
You missed him at MangoCon this week!
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@krisleslie ... awesome!
@DustinB3403 great job!!!!
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Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
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@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
Bingo.
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@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
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@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.
Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.
TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.
The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)
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@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
Yeah, it's still a good method for deployment, but it is not for the faint of heart. It requires a bit of work that isn't solidly documented yet.
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@BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.
Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.
TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.
The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)
Correct I did not. But I was still able to recover manually. Sucked but was doable.
and you're right - if you push the logs out and don't save them locally, you should be fine on USB. I'd be surprised if Citrix wouldn't support you because of that change.
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@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.
Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.
TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.
The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)
Correct I did not. But I was still able to recover manually. Sucked but was doable.
and you're right - if you push the logs out and don't save them locally, you should be fine on USB. I'd be surprised if Citrix wouldn't support you because of that change.
Yeah, that would be an odd reason to not accept your money for support.
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@scottalanmiller said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.
Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.
TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.
The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)
Correct I did not. But I was still able to recover manually. Sucked but was doable.
and you're right - if you push the logs out and don't save them locally, you should be fine on USB. I'd be surprised if Citrix wouldn't support you because of that change.
Yeah, that would be an odd reason to not accept your money for support.
Depends how stickler-ey they are.
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@scottalanmiller constantly says that vendors can't refuse support to you when you have third party HDDs and RAM installed in their servers.
So I don't really see this being that different. Is it possible they could refuse you? Sure, likely, doesn't seem likely.